A question to an honest (= Materialist) Atheist

It’s more the statement I want explained. You asserted that what I presumed and concluded your response was in reference to was wrong. I wanted to know what that was. Then I’d probably ask you for justification - how you know that’s what I presumed and concluded - or perhaps, I’d agree.

I also wanted you to explain something. But, we do not always get what we wanted.

But at first you never answered my request, where I never asserted anything. If we go back to the actual words I had specifically used, we can see what I actually said.

If you had just answered that request, then we would not be here where you are expecting me to answer your request.

I also wanted to know what that was. But, again we do not always get what we want.

If you had answered, then I’d probably not have asserted what I did. But obviously we will never know if you do not clarify.

Quite true. I asked about whether you actually laugh out loud when you use LOL, and your response was that there was some presumption, belief and conclusion in my question and it was wrong. I then asked which presumption. No answers to these. As you say: we don’t always get what we want.

We can go back to many places, each with our own interest guiding.

Right back at ya.

If you had answered, then I’d probably not have asserted what I did. But obviously we will never know if you do not clarify.

Are you saying that my lack of answering led to the assertions? Seems like weak evidence for whatever your conclusions were, if it was that. But then I know what you never make assumptions or draw conclusions or assert things about me or others without first asking all the necessary clarifying questions. For example, about what I mean by ‘conclude’ or ‘concluded’. You would never jump to hasty assumptions or say it must mean ‘absolutely’ based on how you use the word or for any other reason.

No, unlike the rest of us, anew1 never assumes the meaning of words used by other people and always asks clarifying questions. Nor would he ever, when told his assumption about another person’s word use was incorrect by that person, continue to tell that person what that person meant. That would never happen.

Yes.

Great. I would absolutely love that.

Go back to our very first replies to each other, and start again.

Hopefully, clarification is sought before either of us makes any assumption at all. That way, neither of us could say anything wrong nor incorrect.

Would you like to go back to our very first correspondence and find out who asked who first for clarification?

Great clarifying question. But, again, would you like me to answer your questions before you answer mine?

It was not that, so what seemed like “weak evidence” was not at all.

Again, this assumption, conclusion, belief, and assertion of yours is completely and utterly wrong and incorrect.

Why would you believe and/or assert that I would never jump to hasty assumptions?

This conclusion and assertion of yours is obviously false and wrong.

Absolutely anyone here can see and recognise that from the actual words that I have used.

If this is what you want to believe is absolutely true, then okay.

But, how can a person accurately know if another’s assumption is wrong or not if clarification of what the assumption is exactly was not sought out and obtained first?

One way you could know other than by asking for clarification is when you tell the person what they meant and they say it wasn’t what they meant. That happened with ‘conclude’ where you told me that I meant believe absolutely. I said it did not mean that. Despite that, you continued using your interpretation.

Do you think that follows your stated approach of clarifying meaning before concluding—yes or no?”

Oh, I wouldn’t assert that without irony.

My concern that you might believe it is based on things like the following:

‘I’ am ‘It’, the Universe, and, Mind, Its-Self.

While ‘you’ are ‘you’, human beings, and people.

and

Are you infallible when it comes to knowing what is True and Real?

Anew1: Yes, and this is just because of the formula I have and the process I use.

I can see and understand why every person is the way they are and why they do the things they do.

But perhaps you don’t think you are infallible regarding making hasty assumptions. So, when you assumed that by conclude I meant absolutely believe, and continued to assert this after I said that is not what I meant, were you jumping to and holding on to a hasty assumption?

But why even presume something, which could just be wrong or incorrect anyway. Why then spend more time telling another what they meant or implied, which could be wrong, and then have to wait for a reply, which might not obtain actual clarity anyway?

When one ‘concludes’, they do so absolutely.

Did I use the words ‘believe absolutely’?

Is there any possibility at all that you were misunderstanding me?

Again, could you have misinterpreted or misunderstood what I meant?

If you did not seek out further clarification, how would you know what I was actually meaning?

If you, or another, do not clarify what you mean, then what do you want me to do?

What is your approach?

If you sought out clarity first, from the truly open perspective only, then you would already know the Truth here.

By the way, I have already expressed what the Truth is here.

You, once again, appear to have misinterpreted what I was talking about and referring to.

You appear to believe that when I said, “absolutely believe”, in relation to when you wrote, “conclude”, you have misconstrued what I was referring to exactly.

So, you don’t need to ask a clarifying question about how the other uses the word conclude or concludes? And not asking cannot lead to your assuming they mean something they do not.

Yes.

I did clarify. I said when I use conclude it does not mean believe absolutely.

I can only go by what you said a number of times. If you don’t think that when I use the word ‘conclude’ I mean believe absolutely, let me know.

You can go by my words alone, or you can go by your interpretations, assumptions, beliefs, and conclusions as well.

Okay.

Oh, I’m sure you’re right. I have probably misconstrued some of your word use as you did with my use of ‘conclude’. We’re all fallible humans.

Great. And if you do consider my use of ‘conclude’ to mean believe absolutely, let me know.

Okay.

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OK, I’ll bite. What does xxxxxxxxxxx mean?

To reply, my post must be 15 characters. The x was the first character I thought of to add.

Thank you for the open, clarifying question.

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Even here, it could be construed that your superiority complex shines bright.

Even here, it could be construed that your superiority complex shines bright.

Some people might construe the way you formulated that as a way to insult passive aggressively. Oh, I was just saying it could be construed, not asserting it was the case. Someone might construe you are playing the coquette.

Anyway, with four quarters and 10 construings, I can buy a dollar’s worth of gas.

Some might, but some might not.

Who or what is a so-called “coquette” exactly?

Okay.

That could be construed as correct.

Literally: a woman who uses flirtatious behavior to gain attention or admiration, typically without sincere affection or serious intent. Metaphorically: someone pretending to be/do something they are not.

Okay.

Is that what you construed?