A question to an honest (= Materialist) Atheist

I don’t think Age ever doubted that she’s God, it wasn’t that kind of stress. More like anger and annoyance. Not impossible though.

Oh, yeah. I didn’t mean a core belief was knocked off course. But narcissistic rage: Occurs when the individual feels ignored, criticized, embarrassed, or disrespected, even over minor, trivial issues.

Ultimately it’s bringing into question the self-image or other core belief, but it doesn’t mean the person is consciously questioning it. They just feel a threat.

But it’s a slippery slope fear.

But, here you are, still, talking ‘about it’.

That would depend on what you consider ‘interesting’, of course.

Thus why those who have and use the b word end up fighting and arguing against each other. Exactly like you people do here, in philosophy forums. Which is why I come here to use you people to show the proof for my claims.

you could actually consider yourselves, ‘people locked together all believing some thing’.

We might think that it would have dawned on each one of you that you are all crazy, after all fighting over the things you all do is absolute insanity, but instead of coming to realise and understand you all just accuse other ones of being wrong, while remaining perfectly confident that your own beliefs and assumptions are the actual true and right ones.

Which, like I have been saying here, is absolutely hilarious to watch play out.

Project after projection here.

Even though I was trying to make make my lack of interest there explicit, it was condescending to repeat myself.

Yes, it’s been a little project looking at your projections.

This has to be the funniest lack of self-awareness posts so far in the forums. Will he realize why? Only he will know that, if he does, and he will likely keep it to himself.

Except you just assume or believe that humans generally fight because of the b word, and you’re dead wrong. Hence you just assume or believe that you come here and use us to show things, but the truth is that I use you to show that you God have no idea about reality. You assume we act like the ones in the asylum, when you’re the far bigger offender. You assume things here are hilarious the way you think they are, but you have no idea.

I doubt you’ll ever be honest enough, open enough and willing to change enough God, to realize that this belief issue you keep going on about 24/7 (like you did it for a living), is arguably not even in the top 5 reasons why humans fight.

Again, I am not just wrong, I am ‘dead wrong’.

Okay.

So, all you have to do is just say, “you are wrong”, and believe that it is I who is wrong, for you to then believe that that is all it takes for you to show that I have no idea about reality. you, however, believe that you know about reality, correct?

So, just being in an asylum, this one believes, makes you an offender.

  1. Its first claim here is obviously Wrong.
  2. Anyway, I once more still have no idea.

So, people believing things to be true is not even in the top five reasons why human beings fight.

Now, watch this, I will challenge “atla” about this claim of its here, which it believes is the truth, and see what happens when I ask it, “What are the top five reasons why human beings fight?”

Let us see what answer and clarity we get, if any.

To name a few in no particular order, greed; malignance; sexual needs; instinct for dominance; major differences between individual minds, for example differences in intelligence, in thinking and feeling; national interests; uneven distribution of natural resources on the planet, are arguably all more important in causing fighting, than your beloved absolute beliefs. I guess we could add political ideologies.

Beliefs often aren’t absolute and people usually understand what the beliefs of others are, there is no communication issue usually. Even in religious belief wars, lack of communication wasn’t the main issue. And no, you don’t know what the absolute truth is either, no one knows that.

Despite that I gave you many opportunities to prove your alleged omniscience anyway, you failed completely.

You don’t have any idea about reality. You were just a snake oil salesman all this time, you just don’t want to admit it, you wrote tens of thousands of comments for nothing.

Now, an open, honest, intelligent person would like to discuss how those claims of yours here may actually be incorrect, and to arrive at the precise Truth. But, since you believe that there is no absolute truth and that your claims here are the truth, there is no need for any further discussion, am I right?

You assume that, but no, an open, honest, intelligent person would acknowledge that humans can’t arrive at the precise Truth.

You assume that I do, but I don’t believe that.

You already had 10 years to show how your divine-autistic communication would solve all the world’s problems, and you failed completely. Looks like you assume that such things go unnoticed.

HAHAHA

LOL So, open, honest, and intelligent people just happen to coincidentally align with the assumptions and beliefs that you hold to be true. you make me laugh “atla”.

So, you only partly and somewhat believe that there is no absolute truth. Which ultimately means that even to you, there could actually exist absolute Truths, that you have not yet recognised, correct?

Although you did actually completely contradict this just above here.

you have already proved how open you are here.

LOL Even when the irrefutable proof was presented to you, you failed absolutely to see and recognise It.

You assume that I said that, but I didn’t. It shows that you aren’t open, honest and intelligent. But almost all open, honest and intelligent people agree that humans aren’t omniscient.

Incorrect

Completely incorrect. I think there’s objective reality, how things truly are, we can just never absolutely know them.

Yes, I’ve always been far more open than you. You are VERY closed.

You assume or believe that you’ve presented irrefutable proof, when you clearly completely failed to do so. The psychology behind that kind of insanity is what we are studying here, using you.

Atla, you managed to elicit the hypocrisy of good old Age. He assumes that the open honest person would be like him. But when you do what he just did it is hilarious to him and he mocks it. Such a lack of ability to see himself or anything through other perspectives, that it comes off as a kind of amnesia here.

They hypocrisy of Age knows no bounds.

Now you claim that you did not say that. So, what did you say exactly?

It’s good to see you change your words, it shows that you are listening and comprehending.

What exactly is Incorrect, and what exactly is Correct?

So, you, supposedly, do not believe things absolutely, although you say and write things like, “Completely incorrect”.

Now, if that was, supposedly, ‘completely incorrect’, what is ‘completely correct’, exactly?

Once again, it makes an absolute statement, but, and again, it has now changed its wording. Which is does sometimes after I point out and highlight its mistakes, inaccuracies, or contradictions.

LOL So, once again, it is me who failed, absolutely, to present some thing, and never it who could possibly have failed to recognise and see it.

So, what the actual Truth is becomes even more blatantly obvious and clear here.

Okay. But, what you and others are ‘studying’, others and I can recognise and see blatantly obviously and very, very clearly.

LOL Another one who absolutely missed what was pointed out. LOL it actually thinks what it “saw” here fits.

Watch this one will not discuss what actually took place. it just assumes that what it believes happened must be the absolute and irrefutable truth.

And Age repeats the same pattern, here accusing someone else of what only Age does here. It’s sort of clever tactic. Project what one is critical of on others and see if you can get them defensive about it.

With some reluctance, given his toxicity, I am starting to feel sad for this person. He probably doesn’t realize how much like a child he sounds in these discussions.