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As you may or may not have notice, Kropotkin has been AWOL of late
around here… that is because at work, we have been crushed by Covid 19…
over 20% of the staff has been gone because of illness… and that in the front end,
where I work, the percentage is higher, around 80% of the front-end staff has covid…
which means I have been working, a lot… 6 and 7 days a week for almost 2 weeks
with no end in sight…

but this story will focus on just two of those sick people, I shall call them,
Jane and Steve…Steve is exactly like UR… didn’t get the shots, takes his mask
off quite often, makes fun of people who got their shots… and Jane is autoimmune,
which can be a rather long list of physical issues… I don’t know her exact problem,
but she can’t get sick…

so, both of them got Covid, Steve is a healthy individual, a bit older than me,
but in very good physical shape… Jane is in her 40’s… with 3 kids…

so, both got sick around the same time, neither has been in, in a week…
Jane is home resting and will be at work at some point within the week,
Steve however is in the hospital, on a ventilator… and there are some doubts
as to whether he will make it…

Jane is vaccinated plus booster and will be fine…
Steve, not so much…

so the only reason Jane got so sick is because she is autoimmune,
and she most likely would have died without the vaccines/booster,
Steve? we don’t know, but had he gotten the shots and wore the mask
all the time, like he should have, he most likely wouldn’t have gotten sick at all…
or it would have been very mild, at best…

so, when the death crowd led by UR and gLOOM, say, don’t get vaccinated or
don’t wear a mask, they are saying, get sick and die… for what do they care if
you get sick and die…it doesn’t mean anything to them…you are, at best,
a number, a person they are going to call a ‘‘commie’’ and ‘‘liberal’’ and they
clearly hate “those” people and wish them all death… UR makes no bones about
the fact that if every liberal died in the world, he would throw a huge party
and celebrate like it was 1999…

and that is the point, they are anti-life… have any of the anti-life crowd
ever offer up any sort of positive reasons to live?
What they offer us is insane conspiracy theories that simply have no proof
and don’t bring us anything positive about existence… their every post is doom
and gloom and hate and despair…

what is positive about their insane rantings about ‘‘the deep state’’
or the massive ‘‘conspiracy’’ about vaccines, or stealing this election or
that election…and what is worse, is they never offer up
answers or give us something to do to fight these ''insane widespread conspiracies"

reading them is a crash course in “you are fucked, so why not just die now”
that seems to be all the answers they offer us… I have challenged them time
and again, to give us some answers as to what to do, and they never answer me…
reading them is an exercise in hate, anger and futility… because if they are
right, there is nothing to do…they can’y even tell us how to fight these
conspiracies… there are several worldwide conspiracies and UR answer is
‘‘don’t take the vaccine’’'… what a pathetic answer… and if you
are Steve, laying in the hospital in a ventilator, look at what
not getting the vaccine has done…he might die and for what?

Steve bet his life in that UR and gLOOM is right… and the answer
to the worldwide conspiracies is not to take the vaccines,
and now what?

and what will Steve get for believing in the UR and gLOOM’s nonsense
about worldwide conspiracies and vaccinations…

a nice warm hospital bed being attached to a ventilator,
fighting for one’s life… that is the reward one will get in believing
in UR conspiracy nonsense…

Kropotkin

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Your health is not my responsibility, it’s yours.
You’re trying to collectivize health like you collectivize everything.
If you’re fat, lazy and sick, that’s your problem.
If you’re a drinker and smoker, that’s your problem.
People who take care of themselves nearly never get sick, unless they’re very old and near the end, or they’re extremely unlucky.
Your health is not your doctor’s responsibility, not the scientific community’s, not government’s, not society’s, it’s yours.
People who take good care of themselves, and I mean real good care, what Luigi Cornaro, Antoine Béchamp and Weston Price suggest you do, as well as do your own research on your own body, nearly never get sick, and when they do they manage, even at 75.
Our society has its priorities topsy turvy.
Sick people can’t make you sick, only you can make you sick.

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Luigi Cornaro figured out how to be healthy all the way back in the 16th century.
Health is not mysterious.
It requires no fancy potions, not from mainstream or even alternative medicine.
Just discipline
Diet, fitness, nature, good company, manage stress.
Eat little and eat plain, whole foods that agree with your digestion.
Basic hygiene, don’t overdo it.
Don’t overly rely on tech either.
Spirituality helps
Now if you get into a car accident or let yourself go for years and years, that’s different, you may require immediate medical attention, but in almost every other case, your health is on you.
The doctor is someone you visit in an emergency as a last resort, but if you follow Luigi Cornaro, unless you get hit by a bus or you’re very advanced in years approaching the end, chances are you’ll rarely have to visit one if ever.
Be your own doctor, do your own research.
Think, ask what might the root, underlying cause of this or that be?
You get better with practice.

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A true story about lies…

What a pathetic OP.

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wow, NO real surprise here at all…

no concern for Steve or Jane at all…
or the 20% of my store that is infected…

gLOOM says, do you own research but don’t trust doctors or
modern medicine or the media… but trust me…because I
have a degree in bullshit from Trump U.

given their mistrust of virtually everyone and everything, the fact is
that there is no one they trust (outside of Faux news or Bitchute) to
give honest answers to questions…as no one here has a degree in Virology,
medicine, or in statistics, no one here is qualified to give us any answers,
according to doom and gLOOM, we can’t trust anyone to give us honest answers,
for example, the CDC or the WHO…so, according to them, there is no one
to ask about this situation because everyone has been corrupted…

so where does one look to get honest answers? according to doom and gLOOM,
there is no one…

and as far as doom goes, the pathological liar, is calling me a liar…
the same person who believes that IQ45 is still the president…
that the election was stolen and IQ45 is still president… I wonder why
IQ45 is still hanging around Fla if he won the election?
oh, yeh, the “deep state” or whatever conspiracy they are dealing with
this week… I just can’t keep up with their ever evolving, insane
conspiracy theories…

but more to the point did either one offer us anything resembling
some compassion about the lives affected by Covid, nor did they
offer us some means or information to protect ourselves from
their ever evolving, changing conspiracy theories… nor, have they
provided us with any positive information about how to live our lives…
just more doom and gLOOM…

their hate and anger and hostility to life is written in every word they write…

is there anything positive in doom’s and gLOOM world?

not that I can tell… just hate and insane conspiracy theories and
anger at the world… there is no beauty or love or hope or peace in
their world… just vile hatred of life…

feel free to recall any time either one of them has written anything
that was positive or uplifting or hopeful? I can’t either…
mean spirited and hate pretty much covers everything they
have ever written here…

is that all they have?

it would certainly seem so… I dare them to write something positive or
uplifting or hopeful? I doubt very seriously either one of them can…

Kropotkin

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This is why it’s foolish to engage with a compulsive lying retard.

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K: and I rest my case…

Kropotkin

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so we have an update… Jane came to work today…
and Steve may not come back at all… he might have “long term Covid”,
and thus we have real life examples of what happens if one listens to
“doom and gLOOM”…and if one does the right thing and gets vaccinated…

so hay, believe in “doom and gLOOM” if you want… just be ready to
be like Steve… being in a hospital for weeks on end, on a ventilator…
and being so sick, that you cannot come back to work…

I think this is an easy choice for anyone with a IQ above 80, but
hay, that’s me…as I am vaccinated and have my booster…
I’m good and alive and not staying in a hospital for weeks at a time…

Kropotkin

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How’s your health Pete?

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Me?
I haven’t been sick since 2018.
From my experience, sickness comes from relying on mainstream medicine instead of making diet and lifestyle a priority.
Last time I was sick it wasn’t because of a ‘virus’, it was because I was waaay overstressed.

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A neighbor of mine, she died suddenly and unexpectedly shortly after taking the vaxx.
She was in her 50s and in okay health prior to taking it.
A friend of mine, his friend’s wife died shortly after taking the vaxx.
My aunt, her husband and all her friends developed chronic illnesses shortly after taking it.
Nonetheless they all decided to get their boosters, we’ll see how they do.
Yea these could be coincidences.
All I know for sure is, all the unvaxxed people I know are doing just fine.

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Government, MSM and regulatory agencies have been demonstrably captured by big pharma and the globalists, so their data is triply unreliable.
You wanna rely on it, fine, but don’t mandate it.
I’m donating to and voting for politicians who’re against mandates, and I’m not alone, hundreds of millions of people are with me.
I guess Spain and Sweden are fools because they reject vaxx mandates, along with Florida and Texas.
Israel and now the UK have scrapped vaxx mandates.
Hopefully Canada and the rest of the US will follow their example.

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K: and despite your hatred of science, logic, medicine, doctors, you still haven’t
grasp the point… your failure to grasp “cause and effect”
and the point, if A happens, then B, must happen… If a “neighbor” dies after getting vaxxed,
then in your mind, it must be the vaccine… but you left out or simply “forgot” so
much information as to make your “story” worthless…
her health was “ok” but what does that mean, exactly? and how long
after getting vaxxed did she die? Just because an event happens, a shot,
then another event happens, death, doesn’t make the two related in any,
way, shape or form…the leading cause of death for women is some sort of heart or stroke
either a heart attack or a stroke…or perhaps she had the shot and then completely
unrelatedly, had an heart attack or a stroke… the one event, a shot, may not
have any bearing on the cause of death…

until you have all the data, all the relevant information, you cannot
connect two events…if 4 people got sick after the vaccination,
then they must have gotten it from the vaccine? and yet, logic suggest,
it was more likely a cold or a flu, that just happened after getting the shot…

until you actually do some work, get the data, you are no more than guessing…

as for your “unvaccinated” friends, I am glad they are fine and I hope they
stay that way… but again, don’t make connections between the vaccinations
and people’s health unless/until you have ALL the relevant information…
otherwise, you are doing nothing more than just guessing…
using your gut… conservatives love their gut giving them life and death decisions…
I would rather use my head and logic and information to base my decisions on…

Kropotkin

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Follow the money.
The money is in patented drugs, and in managing sickness, less in curing and even less in preventing it.
Unpatented drugs and supplements make less money.
There’s little-no money in herbal drugs and making food your medicine, that’s why so much research is done and emphasis placed on the former and so little on the latter.
We got health backwards.
There’s little-no money to be made from Béchamp’s terrain theory of disease.
Millions of people who’re smarter than you are fed up with chronic illness and mainstream medicine, they have opted for alternative medicine, detoxification, dieting and fitness instead.
Turns out highly educated people are more likely to be anti-vaxx than mediumly and lowly educated people.
Nobody’s gonna make money from what Luigi Cornaro prescribed, in fact a lot of people are going to lose money.
From my experience and research, Luigi had it right.

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I trust myself and my experience first and foremost.
No one cares about my health more than me.
All our bodies are unique in many respects.
I know dozens of people, and the dozens of people I know, know dozens and hundreds of people.
Talking to people is evidence.
If in the coming months and years the unvaxxed people I know are significantly sicker than the triple, quadruple, quintuple, sextuple and septuple vaxxed, I’m going to take that into account.

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Class warfare isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s a fact.
Class warfare is the norm.
It didn’t suddenly stop being waged in the 21st century, it’s ongoing.
And it’s permeated every facet of our society, government and economics, the left and the right alike.
Shitlibs and neocons have far more in common with each other than they do with us.
The question is always to what degree have our institutions been corrupted, not have they been corrupted.
In my estimation they’re largely bankrupt, largely because of the mentality of people like you.
We need to hold our institutions’ feet to the fire at every level.
Think outside the box they want to keep us in.
That’s why grassroots media is so important.
Media made and funded for us by us.
Of course they’d like to largely do away with grassroots media.

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…couldn’t agree more Gloom.

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Right on

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I’m so sorry. All will be reconciled.

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It’alwys been a source of contension in different formal attire.

Transformations are dressed up rehearsals