About creators of God

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About creators of God

Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 /

If physicists made a God they would give him
concrete physical parameters.

Which parameters they can be ?
We know that God is something Infinite.
What is ‘INFINITY’ ? Nobody knows.
The conception of ‘ Infinity’ we can find not only in Bible
but in Physics too. Are they equal ?
I think that ‘INFINITY’ is ‘INFINITY’ and can be only one
for every knowledge, for every meaning.
I think there isn’t special ‘INFINITY’ for Bible and special
‘INFINITY’ for Physics. I think the conception ‘INFINITY’
is equal for every part of Science.

Again and again the ‘INFINITY’ appears in many physical
and mathematical problems.
/ Part Physics: Theoretical applications of physical infinity .
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity /
It means that ‘INFINITY’ is some kind of reality. (!)
Does Physicists meet God In the Infinite ?
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To understand this we need to find the answers to the questions:

  1. What is / are the physical parameters of the ‘INFINITY’ ?
  2. What is connection between the infinity and the concreteness ?
  3. What is connection between infinity and quality ?
  4. How to explain the unity and inconsistent character between
    the infinity and the concreteness ?
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    Best wishes.
    Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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By most acoounts God is perfect and humans are not therefore any concept of God will be flawed, the goal is to try and come as close too the truth as possible.

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Is infinity rational or irrational ?
Is infinity abstract or real ?
Actual infinity or potential infinity ?
Effectively infinite or passive infinite ?
Countable infinite or uncountable infinite?
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Countable infinite is Infinity +1 and it is a tautology.

G. Hegel named such infinity as “bad, unreasonable”.
Hegel thought, that in contrast to the " bad " should exist
the “ Reasonable infinity “ too.
By his opinion, the REASONABLE INFINITY
should be something positive and concrete.
And he said that the future theory must explain:

  1. a connection between the infinite and the concreteness,
  2. a connection of infinity not only with quantity, but also with quality,
  3. to explain an inconsistent character between the infinity and
    the concreteness.
    For thousands of years people used a concept of God in order
    to explain this interrelation.
    But Hegel wanted to find more rational, scientific explanation.
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    / something from history of philosophy of science /
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Yes,
“Everything we say about God is a lie.”–Meister Eckhart. But, I wouldn’t go that far. The problem here seems to be how we define truth in reference to ourselves or anything other. If we claim truth is totally dependent on rational thinking, we neglect much truth that is experienced without words.
What if God is an experience, not a thought?

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“Everything we say about God is a lie.”-
/-Meister Eckhart. /

The Physical formulas and equations prove
the existence of the ONE GOD.
/ Israel Sadovnik Socratus /

The ‘INFINITY’ - T= 0K is some kind of reality. (!)
Does Physicists meet God In the Infinite ?
Does God live in the INFINITE: T= 0K ? ( !)
Israel Socratus.
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Can’t quite grasp the math here. ](*,)

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You are right: There isn’t king’s way in Math.
Even king, with God’s help, must understand that 2+2=4.
Even king must understand what T=0K is, what Pi is.
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Sadovnik Socratus
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The results of science are evident everywhere.
Hold up the results of 2500 years of religious progress
and show us what you have?
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/ From an email /

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Religions been around much longer than 2,500 year but ok… an institution that has been around and has influenced culture and the arts much more than science ever has;being a seperate discipline and all.

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Indeed, since infinity is an incomprehensible
concept to the human mind.
Our own limitations of thinking really suck like that;
there’s some really cool things we could work with were it not for that.
/ from an email /
What is the INFINITE / ETERNAL (spacetime) continuum ?

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The limits of the mind is what makes anything interesting to learn about.

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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.
/ Albert Einstein /

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Sorry, but infinity exists mostly as a practical mathematical expression. To impose it on human senses of reality is sometimes to misplace it in a milieu in which it has no practical value. In that milieu the concept may have some value as representing open-ended growth and development, but that value is generally overlooked by considerations of final ends.

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In mathematics yes, in physics not. Neither a force, acting on a physical object, nor the mass of that object, can be infinitely large.
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I’m sorry.

According to QED when electron interacts with vacuum
all its / his parameters change and become infinite.
And therefore physicists have invented “a method of renormalization”,
a method “to sweep the dust under the carpet” / Feynman./
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Physics.
Part: Theoretical applications of physical infinity .
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This point of view does not mean that infinity cannot
be used in physics . . . .
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In quantum field theory infinities arise which need to be
interpreted in such a way as to lead to a physically meaningful
result, a process called renormalization .

However, there are some theoretical circumstances where
the end result is infinity.
One example is the singularity in the description of black holes.
Some solutions of the equations of the general theory of relativity allow
for finite mass distributions of zero size, and thus infinite density.
This is an example of what is called a mathematical singularity,
or a point where a physical theory breaks down.
This does not necessarily mean that physical infinities exist;
it may mean simply that the theory is incapable of describing
the situation properly.
Two other examples occur in inverse-square force laws of the
gravitational force equation of Newtonian gravity and
Coulomb’s law of electrostatics.
At r=0 these equations evaluate to infinities.
/ Physics.
Part: Theoretical applications of physical infinity .
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity /

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Everybody creates his God according to his own image and spirit
If triangles made a God they would give him three sides
/ Charles de Montesquieu . Persian Letters, 1721 /

    Lao Tzu and Physics.

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Dao generates the One,
The One generates the Two,
The Two generates the Three.
The Three generates all things.
All things have darkness at their back
and strive towards the light,
and the flowing power gives them harmony.
/ Tao Te Ching, Chapter 42, Lao Tzu /
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My comment: / Cosmo genesis. /
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In the beginning was Vacuum/ Dao.
The Vacuum/ Dao is not died space but according to
Quantum theory it is Energetic space : T=0K.
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Dao generates the One.
It means:
The Energetic (Infinite/Eternal) Vacuum space generates
energetic virtual particles- frozen light quanta…
They are in rest/ potential condition and written by formulas:
C/D = pi, E = Mc^2, R/N = k, h = 0, i^2 = -1.
They can change its rest/potential condition and become active.
We call this active Energetic particle Electron: e^2= ahc
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The One generates the Two.
It means:
The Ones (frozen light quanta and Electron) create Proton.
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The Two generates the Three.
It means:
As result of interaction between Electron and Proton
the atom was created.
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The Three generates all things.
It means:
The atoms create all things.
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All things have darkness at their back
and strive towards the light,
and the flowing power gives them harmony.
It means:
The Quantum of Light is hidden in everything.
But as the ‘Bhagavad Gita’ says:
Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form.
They do not know My transcendental nature and
My supreme dominion over all that be.
/ Chapter 9. Text 11./

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God as a Scientist !!!

The masses in the Universe are very few.
The distances between stars are very far.
About 99% of the matter in the Universe is unseen.
Nobody knows what it is.
But God using his > 99% Hidden mass of the Universe
take control over the < 1% Visible mass of the Universe.
He is a smart physicist and mathematician .
He smiles and laughs when others say:
‘ The formulas are cleverer than men’.

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In my opinion if God exists, He/She/It would necessarily
to work in an Absolute Reference Frame and had set of
physical and mathematical laws to create everything
in the Universe.
If we find and understand this Absolute God’s House then
is possible step by step to find and understand God’s Physics
Laws, which Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, Maxwell, Planck,
Einstein and many others scientists discovered.

If you don’t like the terminology like ‘ God existing’ then
I can change my sentence.
I will say:
If we find and understand an Absolute Reference Frame in the
Universe/ Nature then is possible step by step to find and understand
the sense of all Physics Laws, which Copernicus, Kepler, Newton,
Maxwell, Planck, Einstein and many others scientists discovered.
Then we can understand the Physics without paradoxes.
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Best wishes.
Israel Sadovnik Socratus.
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Physics and Theology.
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We don’t have unimaginable sources of the Universe.
Now we have four ( 4) sources of the Universe:
big bang , chaos, vacuum and God.
We need to choose which of them is correct.
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If we understand Physics we will understand Universe and Religion.
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What is situation in physics now?
My opinion.
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You know, it would be sufficient to really understand the electron.
/ Albert Einstein./

" The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t correctly
describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct description
of something more complex? "
/ Paul Dirac ./

I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.
/ Richard Feynman /.

Science is not always as objective as we would like to believe.
/ Michael Talbot. /

And somebody wrote:
The theoretical physics is a greatest joke in human history.
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In Physics we trust.
/ Tarun Biswas /

Is it correct ?
Of course, it is correct.
Because only Physics can logically explain us
the Existence and the Ultimate Nature of Reality.

But . . . but . . . as Einstein said:
“ One thing I have learned in a long life:
that all our science, measured against reality,
is primitive and childlike – and yet it is the most precious thing we have.”
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Socratus.