# Abrahamism

**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/abrahamism/44003
**Category:** Religion and Spirituality
**Created:** [January 18, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/abrahamism/44003 "2017-01-18T10:37:38Z")
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Judaism, the birthing mother, daughter of Zoroastrianism and Egyptian death worshiping, giving birth to Christianity, by her lover the Hellene, and Islam, by her barbarian ravagers.

Christianity birthing Marxism, the prodigal daughter, and Humanism, the daughter who stayed around the wandering hearth.

Psychology of the lost son, or daughter in need of a stronger father.  
It attracts the sick, the ignorant, the desperate, the needy into a soothing lie.

It offers inversions to cope with how the world is.  
Demonizes nature, life - castrating, circumcising it, to purify it, converting it to an alternative, a contradiction to worship.

All is inverted in Nihilism.  
What is perceived, experienced, is denied, if it is not inverted - negated.  
All becomes theory, ideal, noumenon, in variuos stages of detachment.  
Blind to all but the esoteric, the shared idea(l), the abstraction.

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Christian mythology is a coming-of-age tale - a ritual.  
In it its unifying icon, Jesus, is put to death, and resurrected as pure idea(l).  
What is crucified in his Jewish, Roman heritage so that merger can occur through abstraction.

When Jesus returns from the dead, he is no longer Roman, nor Hebrew, but a synthesis, simplifying/generalizing contradictions into vagueness.  
Its message is one of becoming pure “spirit” or idea, so as to merge different genetic backgrounds, and to assimilate their differences within a unifying meme.

As a rite of passage we can read the Bible story as a male raised by a Jewish mother, rebelling against his bloodline, and idealizing his absent father, who he can fantasize about and selectively define.  
Jewish and christian conflict is a reflection of this child coming of age, and wanting to go off and find his father, so as to overcome him - in the Freudian narrative to “kill” him, as a symbol.  
The myth is full of hints that urge, potential recruits follow, to abandon their families, meaning their genetic blood, and follow him, as the idea that replaces family and blood with abstraction.  
This is what conversion means to the Christian.  
Though Jewish identity is passed from mother to son, the christian denies the mother, to go out into the world and discover his absent father.  
This is the meme to gene inversion, contradicting Paganism’s from gene to meme.

Christian psychology is about resenting the mother who, after being raped, mentally/physically, and her choice to carry the product to term, to accept the repercussions, so as to then offer him an alternate, a surrogate father, which is nothing more than a surrogate mother (cuckolded male) - as the Jews do when they are but corporeal representations of the one and only masculine force, and what children he, the “man”, begets are not truly his own - see the tale of Abraham as the unifying icon for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.  
The “son”, having yet to become mature, because he has no father to overcome and finish the natural rites of maturing, denounces the mother and holds her accountable for his absence - missing part of him.  
The part that is missing is the earthly, the corporeal, the phenomenal part, which Hellenism represents, leaving him with the mother’s noetic abstractions - her as ideal.  
The corporeal is to be discovered, just as Nihilism attempts to become more than a noetic construct rejecting world, but dreams of rooting itself in a world it rejects, and nullifies.  
A shameful rejection of this state of convenience, as a consequence of the threat Hellenism posed to Judaic Nihilism.  
In Christianity contradictions are covered over with the denial of sex, race, family, but not fully overcome, and replaces these categories with believer/unbeliever, or infidel and the faithful.  
Marxism does the same only it rejects the only remaining division: God as the necessary divisive symbol, replacing it with ‘humanity’, changing the distinctions of faith into that of work.  
The ideal faithful ones are evaluated by how much they sacrifice in their labor, and share it with their fellow humans, through the state.  
Sacrificial rites to the god now becomes labor, sacrifice of effort/time, which is another way of defining life.  
Modern rejection of Christianity is founded on this Marxist effect.  
We now live in a Marxist influenced world where work, your access to resources, are what distinguish you as the righteous - the one who sacrifices his ego to the system, so as to them receive, from it, his just rewards.  
God as System/Institution is a Marxist innovation.  
No race, no sex, only loyalty and labor distinguishing quality.  
Laziness being sinful.  
Selfishness is good, if you abide by the “commandments” - then you are doing god’s work, paying your taxes as a sacrifice, a giving unto god your gratitude, reaffirming your faith in him.

This last step of ridding Christianity, Abrahamism in general, of the God ideal, is what freed Nihilism form its last constraint.  
After that, in other words once atheism became a pat of Humanism, Nihilism could reinvent itself as anything.  
This is what we now know as identity crisis.  
A symptom of the end-phase - Modernity.

In effect, what Christianity did was it identified with the feminine while idealizing the masculine, turning it from flesh & blood into a concept that could then be imagined, fantasized, as anything.  
It is a very Modern story, describing a pregnant female, seduced and then abandoned, forcing her to justify herself to her own husband, by accusing the male of rape. It’s a story of refusing to abort, and fabricating a story to explain the child’s features.

Jesus is the son of a single mother, where the only masculine example, present in his life, is a cuckolded beta with whom he feels no commonality, but who accepts his lot as provider, and protector of another man’s sperm.  
The absent father is idealized, from afar, as all sons with missing fathers do. Either loving him, or hating him, absolutely, depending no the mother’s attitude toward the one who used her and then left her to an inferior mate.  
In the case of Jesus the missing Roman was converted to a Divine Father.  
A boy going out into the world to find this ‘devil’, this daemon, and finding him in himself.  
A son identifying with his present supportive mother, a cuckolded step-father, and a missing idolized male, he could fantasize about but never overcome, to become a man himself.  
He dies a man-child, symbol to all men-children and betas, and females wronged by the masculine spirit - paternalism.

Converting the masculine to an ideal is what Marxism does, and Modernity, when it converts it into a spirit-less abstraction, a faceless, sexless, race-less, Institution.  
Jesus “saves” beta males from their lot. He makes them into spirit - theoretically perfect - that find salvation in the spirit realm where nothing physical applies.  
Their worldly inferiority expunged, forgiven.  
Females begin worshiping masculinity as they would a spirit, a theory - a non-physical abstract, hypothetical, perfect, alpha/omega male, and spend a lifetime seeking his earthly representation, his Christ-avatar.

The Jesus story is a story of cultural rape - genetic and memetic forceful domination - seduction hidden in female innocence.  
When the degraded, misers, proud of their meekness, came in contact with the worldly Hellenic spirit, the impact was devastating.  
The sickly had to distance themselves, or assimilate this new threat, or perish before its health.  
Christianity was a first, failed attempt, with Nietzsche the diagnostician of the incongruity, the disharmony, the incompatibility.

A new assimilation attempt is underway, trying to absorb Nietzsche into a reincarnation of Christianity, under a new name.  
Not Nietzsche per se but what he reminded the Moderns world of - Paganism, the forgotten ancestry.  
He reinterpreted the forgotten past into modern post-Christian jargon - he recalled, destroying Christian hypocrisy, shattering its iconic facades, and forcing a second coming.

History repeats…and this new Messiah, whoever it will be, will be destroyed by a new Hellenic revitalization.  
Hellas and Judea are coincidental representatives of deeper psychological attitudes towards life and existence.  
Attitudes creating representational civilizations like Rome and the U.S.A. - health and illness.  
Realism and Nihilism.  
The noetic based, and the phenomenon based - empiricism versus theory.

When the mind is detached from its body, it loses grounding.  
It conveniently soars up to the unfounded, constructing castles in the sky, declaring itself anything and everything, losing itself in its own delusions.

Jesus’ story is one we can empathize with.  
It is, after all, not coincidentally a very Modern tale: single mother raising an illegitimate son, with a man not related to her, or the boy, by blood.  
We might say that Joseph is the ideal beta-male, to be emulated by all, or rather the perfect representation of a Modern “nice guy”, a very open-minded enlightened man, to inspire Modern males to be that for their companions. An example of a ‘healthy", civilized attitude.  
We know little of his life so we can only speculate as to why he left home when he did, casting-off, on his own, to find his “real father” only to find him in himself in the process.  
The phenomenon of leaving home is part of the modern rites of passage. Child leaves the family’s hearth to give itself to the systemic bonfire.  
Failure to do so is reason for shaming and exclusion.  
But this was not the case in the time when Jesus was growing up. In fact the opposite.  
The masculine dynamics could not have been pleasant for a boy, dominated by a male not of his blood, who looked nothing like him, and probably had very little in common with him. Not a male role-model for a boy already feeling like an outsider, because of his genes, his looks.  
Perhaps we can find a hint of it in his teachings, relating to family, and how he told those fishermen, his soon to be Apostles, to leave their families and follow him – offering us an example of a very current clique, an entourage – or in how he emphasized the divine, ideal Father, degrading his corporeal stepfather to insignificance.  
The circumstances of Jesus’ life are difficult but not as bad as what they could have been.  
If, for example, he were born to a Jewish women who then abandoned him to be raised by his Roman father, in which case he would not have been named Jesus nor suffered from the same psychosis.  
He would have not been a saviour, a redeemer of the meek, nor could he have been converted by one of his followers into an icon of victims around the world.  
Circumstances could have been worse if we permit ourselves some artistic leeway, and imagine how a boy, raised by a Roman, or Pagan mother, and a Jewish father would have turned out.  
Both parents present but a circumstance where both bloodlines excluded him. One because it was legitimized by the maternal and the other by the paternal side.  
Such a child would feel no unquestionable identity with either side of his inheritance; no unconditional acceptance, appreciation – rejected by both sides as a half-breed, a counterfeit.  
A minor detail but a significant one.

A male born in these circumstances would be totally lost, feeling unappreciated, rejected – he would attract and gather lost-boys who saw in him the epitome of their own illegitimacy, their own alienation.

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The Christ story - the christened one - is a Modern story we experience daily.  
It is a story of Zoroastrianism corrupted Judaism, with the selective injections of Hellenism - later they were banished from Babylon where they came in contact with this more ancient form of Nihilism, taking with them many of its symbols, concepts, metaphors.  
A story not repeated in the east, with Siddhartha, without the benefit of a Jewish tribes to corrupt the message and invert the teaching from anti-organized religion into the foundations of an organized religion.  
It is a urban story about population and resource pressures necessitating a change in attitude, an en-lightening, repression of ego, and a blinding one’s self from world - self-castration, perfectly symbolized by the ritual of circumcision. A story of broken families, illegitimate children, cuckolded omega-males, social control of sexual dispositions and the punishment of failing to abide by them.

Jesus is the symbol of Nihilistic salvation.  
Phenomenon, the body, sacrificed to be reborn as pure noumenon, as pure idea(l) - theory.  
Body, the phenomenon was crucified, as a warning to all, and with it the Hellenic side of the christian synthesis.  
The message is clear…and this is why it adopts certain parts of Hellenism and interprets them to its inconvenience - as Platonic ideals: mind shall b the servant of the passions, and no sensual experience, or lack of, will shake its faith, its loyalty, commitment, its sacrifice of physical self - a word-covenant.  
Resurrection in Christianity symbolizes salvation from appearances, from the worldly, from past/nature - all is saved by being converted to spirit - sexless, race-less, lacking all biological identifications - pure idea(l).  
Believers are asked to become living-cadavers - zombies, awaiting the decay of flesh, so as to become fully deceased.  
Zombies is a metaphor of how Moderns think of themselves - as hedonistic, consuming, rotting, mindless, husks to be liberated from themselves by being decapitated - body following brain-death.  
Animated passion, interacting hunger.

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People of the Book, By the Book, for the Book.

Central figure Abraham, connecting Judaism, Christianity and Islam.  
Judaism appropriated from Egypt and Persia - Zoroastrianism - to create their own warped version of their monotheistic dualities.  
Christianity emerged when Judaism came in contact with Hellenism - two incompatible world-views.  
Islam when Judaism came in contact with desert pagan tribes to the east.

Saul was the originator to the west - a Jew himself  
Mohammed was the originator to the east - himself influenced by Judaism attempting to be validated by Rabbis of the time who turned him away, and he turned his prayer away from Jerusalem towards Mecca.  
The Jewish salvation myth was so seductive to peoples that had slaves and were mostly illiterate that the Jews had to deny it to all others, except 12-13 tribes.  
Not all Jews are Semites; not all Semites are Jews.  
Genital mutilation is a symbolic self-castration, indicating worthiness, or a signing of a covenant with the Nil god - absent absolute, presented as a oneness, an absolute whole, when, in fact, it conceals an absolute nil.  
Nothing to do with the concept of Hellenic chaos - part of pagan myths.

[youtube][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-kWyeMMOWo[/youtube]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-kWyeMMOWo%5B/youtube%5D)

Kabbalah is also an appropriation of Christian mysticism - Gnosticism.

Nietzsche’s critique of Christianity - and not so much of Judaism nor Islam - motivates some to distance their own cults from Christianity.  
Some are even attempting to integrate Nietzsche into a new religion to make it more durable to his critique.

Abraham - if he existed - is himself a despicable character.  
He is willing to sacrifice his own son to prove his worthiness; he is willing to pass on his wife as his sister - cuckold - to gain favour with the pharaoh.  
A practice later developing into krypsis.  
This is the central figure of all three Messianic religions.  
All three use feminine methods of competition - coercion, bribery and primarily seduction.  
All three are logo based. Their referents evading the experienced world, and their convictions contradicting sensually perceived reality.

Spiritual Nihilism.  
The primary form.  
Later secular version develop to make them more cosmopolitan - globalizing.  
Christianity is a cosmopolitan form of Judaism using seduction and bribery - daughter.  
Islam is a cosmopolitan version of Judaism using coercion and bribery - son.

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Continuance of the first vid…  
[youtube][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVeLboHU9U[/youtube]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcVeLboHU9U%5B/youtube%5D)

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[youtube][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1enkp28\_k4[/youtube]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1enkp28_k4%5B/youtube%5D)

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[youtube][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6AVCkqqO8o[/youtube]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6AVCkqqO8o%5B/youtube%5D)

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Interesting video titles, but why does he make his videos so long. 😐

I’ll have to listen to them throughout the next few days, in chunks of time.

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[youtube][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i\_PELil9ZU[/youtube]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i_PELil9ZU%5B/youtube%5D)

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#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 7:12pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/abrahamism/44003/10 "2021-12-25T19:12:39Z")

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A dream to be interpreted: a bird flies upon my head, fear that it is a Hitchcock reanactment, but really true to form as described above… but even if so? may there be silver lining be other than associated with judas?

( merely a strategic con-jecture en passant maybe)

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#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 7:13pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/abrahamism/44003/11 "2021-12-25T19:13:52Z")

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Y’all have Christianity confused with syncretistic gnosticism.

Marx was very anti, and delusional. Universal alienation… state ownership … reject that. We were set free from crap like that. Do not return to it. Legit early Christianity was about freely sharing, not compulsive having-nothing-to-share. No wonder it always gets shut down or distorted.

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It is said the devout traditional Jews worship an evil creator god…and the present Jews worship nothing…but themselves.  
All is inverted…good is evil, evil is made good. Darkness shines like light…and light is described as if it were darkness.  
Christians were fooled into worshipping evil while they call it good, or worshipping nothing as if it were something - an their traditional beliefs - belief in nature - and so losing themselves in nothingness…bringing us to the present crisis and nihilism.  
Nihilism demands that what does not exist, cannot ever exist, is rather more real than the experienced existence. They demand non-existence to exist.  
Because if the concepts nihilism uses to declare the cosmos a negative were to exist then existence, as we know it, as we experience it, would cease…their concepts nullify existence and so can ever only exist as concepts - vague, obscure, mystical…ideas with no referents.  
Christianity is how Indo-Europeans were duped.

Lookup Bjerknes on bitchute.

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Moving my economic thoughts here.  
[ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p … 4#p2849113](https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=197611&p=2849113&sid=0df72fa3e92949b5acdea40d4db5f704#p2849113)

Y’all are too easy satisfied shadow boxing straw men.

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> Christian theology is the grandmother of Bolshevism.

Shhhhh, stupid one…you believe in superstitious nonsense.

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> Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18

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> He [Josiah] executed the priests of the pagan shrines on their own altars, and he burned human bones on the altars to desecrate them… He did this in obedience to all the laws written in the scroll that Hilkiah the priest had found in the LORD’s Temple. Never before had there been a king like Josiah, who turned to the LORD with all his heart and soul and strength, obeying all the laws of Moses. And there has never been a king like him since. 2 Kings 23:20-25 NLT

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> You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT

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> Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5 NLT

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> If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 21:18-21

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> If a man has sex with an animal, he must be put to death, and the animal must be killed. Leviticus 20:15 NLT

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> No one whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall be admitted to the assembly of the LORD. Deuteronomy 23:1 NRSV

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> Whosoever … hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookback, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken … He shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries. Leviticus 21:17-23 KJV

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> Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same. Luke 3:11 NIV

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> Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place. Ephesians 5:4 NIV

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> I am a Christian. He who answers thus has declared everything at once-his country, profession, family; the believer belongs to no city on earth but to the heavenly Jerusalem. — Saint John Chrysostom

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> Matthew 10:35  
> For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.

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[youtube][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55WM4s\_VMf8[/youtube]](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55WM4s_VMf8%5B/youtube%5D)

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### Author: ![Meno2](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Meno2](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Meno2)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/abrahamism/44003/17 "2021-12-25T20:27:01Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> Y’all have Christianity confused with syncretistic gnosticism.
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> Marx was very anti, and delusional. Universal alienation… state ownership … reject that. We were set free from crap like that. Do not return to it. Legit early Christianity was about freely sharing, not compulsive having-nothing-to-share. No wonder it always gets shut down or distorted.

Jesus was supposed to have traveled the yellow silk road thereupon the evolving gnosis later much, after configuration had rough edges. Evenomically demeaning: turning away is like reacting to violation of permission to revisit

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### Author: ![Meno2](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Meno2](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Meno2)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/abrahamism/44003/18 "2021-12-25T20:27:12Z")

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> [@Ichthus77](#):
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> Y’all have Christianity confused with syncretistic gnosticism.
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> Marx was very anti, and delusional. Universal alienation… state ownership … reject that. We were set free from crap like that. Do not return to it. Legit early Christianity was about freely sharing, not compulsive having-nothing-to-share. No wonder it always gets shut down or distorted.

Jesus was supposed to have traveled the yellow silk road thereupon the evolving gnosis later much, after configuration had rough edges. Evenomically demeaning: turning away is like reacting to violation of permission(aka consent) to revisit

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### Author: ![Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/ichthus77/32/446_2.png) [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/abrahamism/44003/19 "2021-12-25T20:42:30Z")

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updated [ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p … 5#p2849113](https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=197611&p=2849113&sid=6c3e64895f78cfd4dab27c27bd603365#p2849113)

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### Author: ![Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/lorikeet/32/9996_2.png) [@Lorikeet](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Lorikeet)
#### Post date: [December 25, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/abrahamism/44003/20 "2021-12-25T21:00:46Z")

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Abrahamism is anti-nature, anti-world, anti-blood, anti-life…concealed in obscure occult mysticism.  
Jesus was a Jew…if he existed at all…who became a symbol of man rejecting the body - sin - to be reborn as pure mind - divine.  
Anti-Hellenic to the core…and via Hellenism it is anti-Indo-European…anti-pagan which is the worship of one’s own ancestors and of nature, i.e., cosmos, reality, world.

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