what is the problem???
erut has found god…he is happy about this…
why screw it up by talking about the bad asses that are there always…
I am not even sure why I am asking this question but… may we hear how?
Communist Russia = Ancient Egypt
Stalin and, even more, Lenin, were quite literally gods.
The Nazis were pretty pumped about their delusions too, how shitty of us to rain on their parade…
erut is one guy who has found god…what are his chances of being a nazi…you are over-reacting…
i have found my god----“the ultimate reality of everything”…you havent asked erut to define his god…
I don’t need to, I know about the AA god. It is the same christian god, just ask him. The god of “goodness” and “love” of whom we are all “slav-” uh, I mean “children.”
how about aa and the “higher power”…have you heard about that???
'Course.
All of those monotheistic Gods are terrible tyrants, and I wish nobody were in such a state as to feel that their last recourse was to worship them.
You found God?
No, friend, “God” found you…
Fear of death?
If that were true, wouldn’t people off themselves to get into heaven?
And I would respectfully submit that the “God” that erutxet has “found” would be better described as “his own inner strength”.
I’m a woman, not a guy, or a girl…
It’s not my own inner strength. I could never have saved me from myself. I’m a mere mortal. Only the knowledge that Christ lives in me, and Christ himself lives in God, and we’re all bound together by the Holy Spirit could have saved me, and it has.
I have no fear of death, only of misunderstanding God’s will for me on this earth as an instrument of his peace. Christians don’t ‘off themselves’ because God meant for us to live on earth as His children. We are supposed to live here and let Christ live in us, and use us as instruments of His will. Jesus died on the cross for our sins so we may have everlasting life in this life and the next. When we ‘die’ the flesh expires but the soul remains within Christ, as it always has been since he died for us on the cross. With Jesus, Adam’s original sin died. As soon as Jesus breathed his last on the cross, all human beings, ALL, regardless of their actions, were saved and redeemed and had salvation. But it’s up to the individual to realize they are saved, or the holy spirit will not awaken in them.
Hi Texture,
I think you may misunderstand the nature of this forum.
This is an Anti-religion and an Anti-woman forum and not a Religion forum.
My own views: I am pro-choice and pro-freedom and pro-democracy (but anti-capatalist).
Regards M.M.
It’s distasteful to post snarky, sarcastic remarks in a forum where the main purpose is provoking thought. This isn’t a knitting circle or an after school drop-in, it’s a knowledge centre. Grow up.
EDIT: Added MM’s comments in case he or she tried to save face.
I must apologize Tex. I know very little about twelve-step programs personally, but I do know that AA helped someone close to me (and continues to do so). So, I don’t want to belittle that. But my true opinion is that people who are helped by AA are tapping into something within themselves, something they don’t know is there, even if it manifests as external from their point of view. There are twelve-step programs that are not “faith-based” and these do seem to have enjoyed some success as well.
Good luck with your sobriety.
Oh, and the Monkey is right. This is a philosophy forum - it may be the religion board, but theists are gonna take a lot of flak here. Sarcasm can make you mad; it can also make you think.
“In a controversy the instant we feel anger we have already ceased striving for the truth, and have begun striving for ourselves.” – The Buddha
You’re right; the thing people are tapping into within themselves is GOD as they understand him. Good Orderly Direction, GOoDness as you see it. GOD is just a label for that fighter spirit that some people are vain enough to call their own. It’s really the spirit of the universe, more commonly known as GOD. It’s just a label, seriously. Means nothing. Sex has nothing to do with the letters s e x. GOD has nothing to do with the letters G O D. God = the spirit of the universe. It’s the force that pushes air out of your lungs and helps you shit. It’s everything in the world that you cannot do yourself. Grace, forgiveness, love. Anything divine.
Fine. But why then bother fixating on just one “devine” figure (Christ). Why not be more open to others? Like, The Buddha. Mohammad. Bahá’u’lláh.
It is also distrustful to think I would try to save face… Just for the record I hit URL instead of underline (this is what I edited).
I am offended that you think I am dishonest and would like an apology.
I don’t know you, all you are is an online personality to me. I don’t trust you at all either, I have no reason to. I don’t care if you’re offended. You offended me. You shouldn’t care though, we’re here for knowledge, not to protect each others feelings. No apology.
I am open to other religions. All religions are fueled by the spirit of the universe, commonly known as God, Creator, Buddha, Mohammad, etc. Personally, I believe that Christianity is the core, the religion of the true God, but that is my own belief, and I would never, ever impose that on anybody. Everyone’s journey with God is different. I would rather die than impose my religious beliefs on someone. I was a staunch atheist for 4 years and having other people’s beliefs rammed down my throat sent me running, screaming, crying, angry. Don’t tell ME WHAT TO BELIEVE IN! 
Wouldn’t dream of it. But I would tell you what to think about. Like the fact that all these different religions can’t all be right, because at some point, they contradict each other. So if you want to go with them all, you have to conveniently ignore the sticky bits… (like the virgin birth and resurrection)
Texture, I accept your apology.
And for the record, I trust you.
If we are here to seacrh for and protect the truth then feelings are a part of that truth.
Feelings are also truth. No?