All I have to say

Simple, cut it down to my world and essentially its only me that counts. You all exist but, only on the edge of my world, I figure since its my world I think Chaos is beauty and beauty is chaos leashed. :smiley:

chaos and beauty exist for each of us in our own world, maybe I see chaos differently than you. your sight or knowledge of chaos comes from what you know and feel, which is different than mine. I choose to figure it that way. It works in my world. :laughing:

Chaos, from which you can extract beauty. You’re missing the point.
Beauty, and chaos…this is to simple and cute for you.

I know what it is for me individually but is my envisionment of beauty the same for everyone else?

It depends on what kind of blunt we are talking about Smears. :laughing:

I only prefer tobacco cigars myself. :sunglasses:

Yes, however beauty still exists regardless of individual taste.

As in there is nothing else but Beauty and Chaos???

Alright.

Fair enough Kriswest. :slight_smile:

Lots of things. The opposites of beauty and chaos to name a few.

As for beauty, I can say with certainty that my plate of nachos, beer and the cigarette I get afterword are BEAUTIFUL! (oh you just don’t know right now!) :laughing:

Yea and its not beautiful that you are not sharing, :laughing:

And what exactly are those?

No seriously I think we’re getting somewhere, you say

I wanna hear it, what are the opposites? Then we can talk.

Alright. Off the cuff I’ll suggest ugliness and order as the opposites of beauty and chaos respectively.

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No, chaos.

Unless its just illusion and Order that is

And chaos cannot be ugly? Or can it be anything?

At the core its chaos.

And the debate will continue.

Debate? I’m totally lost…

Forget that part. I was expecting a certain response.

What I was trying to get across was that at the core of what you call ‘ugly’, it is simply chaos. Order, is a facade we have created, it is not the natural state of things.
I was expecting you would retort with “Well isn’t beauty just chaos then?”. I would acknowledge this, because yes at the core of beauty is chaos, but it is the ‘extreme’ that provides a powerful emotional response, in a positive manner. So in a sense it is what I choose to recognize among the chaos.
But I have a reason:
Beauty is a guiltless pleasure, something to be appreciated.
Ugly is a misunderstanding.