An apology to ILP

There is something I’d like to say.
I’d like to apologize for some of the mistakes I have made years ago at ILP.
Looking back on it, I realize I was wrong, but at the time it seemed like a must.

I’ve changed allot in the last 6 years.
Long ago my brain was slightly overclocked, there was imbalance of chemistry, but it was not too severe yet. It had its good sides, and its bad sides. I’m schizophrenic with some bipolar like qualities as well, but I am on some very good meds for that and for my depression as well. I come from a bad place. I couldn’t help but be F-ed up. In fact I’m surprised I functioned as well as I did. I’ve lost a bit of my motivation, I’ve lost a bit of my inspiration, but with my meds I’ve gained a special sort of sanity which I didn’t have when I was not on any meds before my illness worsened. I’m not at my prime in all ways, but this is as good as it gets for now.

One of my more recent ideas is that even foolish people shouldn’t be hated. Now, I know some folks whom disagree, even some people who think hate is a beautiful proper thing, but especially women will understand that it’s not. Ultimately I didn’t want to be mentally ill, or choose it. Foolish people probably didn’t choose to be born foolish, either. In existence sometimes we are born screwed. For example, if I was born in some sort of fanatic islam state, I would most likely be some kind of fundy. Even in the U.S. I could have been born into a fundy family. As children we just soak things up. We have very little filteration on what enters our being. I’m serious about that, very little filteration.

Despite my mistakes, I’m not angry at myself or at you posters.
I just wanted to apologize.

Apology accepted… on behalf of ILP Dan :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m sure that most grow into their philosophy and thoughts, and are then able to make sense of them to ourselves and to others.

I will accept your apology if you can solve for me the following riddle:

What, exactly, is a Boney M?

Years ago I thought collectivism was such an amazing perfect thing.
Then later I thought that collectivists and individualists can get along and cooperate, and that both are “meant to be”.
Thanks for accepting the apology.

I’ve never heard of such a thing, but I’m guessing it is some sort of sexual innuendo.

The fools’ paradox is an interesting one.

Some say that fools deserve to be made fun of in order to learn from experience. After all, nobody’s going to check fools’ parents to make sure they do their job, and non-parents shouldn’t be obligated to enlighten fools. This even applies in situations where people aren’t genuinely foolhardy, but rather they merely have a disagreement over what is mutually understood. People call the disagreeable foolhardy because they can.

If fools don’t “learn from experience”, they’re simply labeled autistic for being abnormal. It’s not necessarily that fools are genuinely retarded. It’s that society can label fools autistic, and that nobody’s going to stop society. Furthermore, the path of least resistance is blaming the victim.

Perhaps one day, people will realize that fools deserve enlightenment for the sake of socially responsible sustainability in order to avoid consumerism to compensate for alienation.

In the mean time, fools suffer because society doesn’t care. Society demands evidence of irresponsibility in advance of experience before being willing to change the experience of being made fun of. Likewise, society behaves sarcastically while hiding behind plausible deniability, claiming that it’s offensive to be called out for playing dumb when it’s possible that society actually is dumb and doesn’t deserve to be judged.

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Hey Dan, I don’t think you have anything to apologize for.

I think it is natural for me to regret my errors after realizing them. Even with my errors I had friends, so I wasn’t too f-ed. Thanks though.

Sometimes you make no mistakes and you still have no friends. I know some people like that.

[size=120]I, also, wish to apologize to ILP for being so open and honest with my opinions.
At the time I made all those nasty, but truthful, comments, I had on idea you were all a bunch of cowards AND RETARDED DEGENERATES, USING THE WORD “PHILOSOPHY” TO PRETEND THAT YOU WERE SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE SOCIAL SYSTEM THAT PRODUCED YOU…AND WHICH YOU ADAPT TO SO HARMONIOUSLY.

WELL, WITH THE HELP OF DENIAL, LARGE AMOUNTS OF INEBRIATING POP-CULTURE, AND DRUGS.

I have no learned that you to not seek clarity, but to preserve your sense of entitled pretentiousness, and that social contract that ensures that bullshit is part of your daily discourse and the only time you dare to speak outside the box, so to speak, is when you are hiding behind some famous authority…you can then distance yourself from if you get cornered and the corner your lack of comprehension has placed you in.

I wish to make you feel better about yourselves…and so allow me to admit that I am a loser and a sociopath.
I cannot hold a job, can’t get laid, have no friends, and no sense of humor, as you can tell.
Over the years I’ve been far too honest, not understanding that “honesty”, for turds, means the one that flatters all, or is critical but with that avenue of hope, that does not become overly stifling.

The unbiased interventions by such brilliant minds, as Magsi, the brown cow, Humean, the retard, and the felix the pussycat, who speaks for God, has inspired me to want to change.
They have taught me that I am afraid of change…or I am a troll, begging for attention I am not getting in my “real” life, and that your little microcosm of the macrocosm, reflecting western decay and its underlying hatred for nature and life, are the only game in town…so ‘love it or leave it, sista!!!’
I now understand that natural selection is wrong…because it may deprive the world of something wonderful, like a juggling ape, or a bear that can ride a bike…or ten million monkeys producing Faust…no not the drunken douche-bag, the work by Goethe.
I want to tell you all, that yes, you all deserve to be alive, you have a right to it, and yes females outside these circumstances would still be equal to males…it’s just that, at the moment, they require a helping hand to be average, after so many hundreds of thousands of years of bigotry, and like the Negroes they too will, one day, produce the exceptional.
Not in fashion or pop-culture, I hope.

Some things I’ve learned over the years of frequenting forums just like this one …this one being so unique.

1- God exists…because there is a beginning and an end.
Somewhere…out there.

2- Appearances do not matter, when it comes to humans…but they do in every other area of human interest.
By appearance I mean “phenomenon”…that which appears; the apparent. More precisely, color is superficial…but form, smell, texture, sound…not so much.

3- All deserve love and respect…just because.

4- Given 3 & 4, females still should not give a bum a blowjob, proving how appearance does not matter to them, and how love is something all should have.

5- Life is precious…and that’s why it feeds on itself.
I commend everyone here for never eating bio-matter, unless it comes in a can and is manufactured using stem-cells. Their love of life is breathtaking.

6- Divergence is a sham, proving how evolution is a big ploy dividing those who are really one and the same - a satanic ruse.
In fact, by ‘natural selection’ we should mean that nothing is selected…but goodness.

7- Race is only about pigmentation, color…ergo a black bear is just a bear…and a Polar Bear should not be judged by the color of its fur.

8- The only category that maters is human…which has nothing to do with sex.
Ergo, species are a human construct and a fraud.
What is a horse in relation to an ass…no not Smears, he’s a Shit=Smear?
Nothing but beings, wrongly judged on appearances and placed in a bigot-box, to make man feel superior.

9- Living in the moment is the only noble way to live…like animals…like goldfish, with an attention span of 6 seconds and a memory not exceeding the time required to swim form one part of the aquarium to the other.
Your shared forgetfulness, this need to distance yourself from the past, towards a brighter, better, coming future, is inspirational. It is what makes you all forget about my previous indiscretions, since experience and knowledge are encoded past, informing the ongoing Becoming.

10- The only perspective worth considering is the one that hurts nobody, and excludes no one.
We need numbers to keep those typewriters typing away…expecting the next work of genius…by accident.
If it is one thing which makes enduring billions of morons worth it, is that Hawkin or Einstein.
I mean, is that not what nature does: produce superfluous masses, to weed out that one piece of gold? Yes…nature is like a an inefficient drunken imbecile…producing garbage by the loads, and then sheltering them form themselves…just in case.

11- No, it is not man who fabricates the extermination of sexual roles, to produce a more harmonious uniformity, it is man who fabricates sexual roles, and then convinces billions that there are such categories as male/female which are not only superficial.
Similarly, all specialized forms, are similar in all ways but “externally”. Because the “outside” is but a cover for some “inside”

12- Nature evolves the appearance, and not the essence of the phenomenon. The essence is static, immutable, divine…but the outside changes to trick us. Our senses evolved to fool us and keep us fighting, and as a test, only the wise can see through.

13- Consciousness is not about perceiving divergence. It is a fraud, meant to test the mind and discover the wise one who sees nothing but sameness.
For instance, if I were a wine taster, then being able to discern between wines, to be aware of a divergence, would mean I was primitive and a prejudiced prick. Training myself to drink vinegar, with the same gusto as drinking a fine bottle of wine, is a sing of my enlightened state, not of my tongue’s numbness.

14- Empathy automatically results in sympathy.
For example, if I can project myself in the place of a pedophile and imagine myself as he is, then this automatically results in me sympathizing with him; my compassion increases, not my aversion.
And no, feeling pity for the other is not self-pity turned outwards, or reflected through an other.
And yes, a weakling and an imbecile can get into the mind of a more intelligent person…like a dog can reflect on a man’s worries, or a cow can empathize with the farmer.
This is why all psychological projections, on Satyr, were automatically spot-on…particularly when they flattered and comforted the herd.

15- What is past is automatically inferior to what is present and future.
Therefore, that entropy is increasing, does not mean that the past represents a more ordered state…and the future promises to be a more chaotic state, chaos defined as randomness…or the absence of patterns.
Ergo, change is always good…and so growing old and dying is a good thing, in relation to the past, when I was young and vigorous…and me changing my mind, constantly, is not an indication that I may lack judgment…but it indicates an openness to new data, particularly when ti makes me feel good and not bad.

16- Social reciprocity is beyond reproach…and all must pretend, under all circumstances that it is magical.
Nothing bad should be said about anything we depend upon…the unwritten law is that we all know but say nothing…this makes us honest and socially viable.
Not even here, in anonymous forums, must we, for a minute, dare to critique our shared, underlying values and ideals…though we may nitpick and discuss and debate the details.
For instance, Bible scholars can debate on the meaning and source of a text, but never about the existence of God or the validity of the source. That may put them out of business.
Therefore, love, goodness, unity, compassion, equality, sameness, shared value, should be mystified…and anyone daring to question them must be silenced.
He is obviously a sociopath.
So, we can tolerate a moron claiming there is a God who offers eternal life, but any idea that divides or shatters the glue that unites the group, will be ridiculed or put through a strainer, so as to dismiss it.

17- Civility is not a shared lie, nor is it a limit to thinking.
Self-Censorship is a must…because someone may be hurt…and what if he turns out to be the next Beethoven?
It’s possible.
Adversity does not create strength and it does not develop creativity…no, comfort and ease, and a shared comfort under the lights of entitlement, do that.
We may say that sheltering does lead to progress…forever upwards, just like not straining your arm leads top a muscled forearm.
The cow in the barn, if not willfully selected, would, on her own, produce a calf with higher yields.

18- The past is not an indication of future behavior…nor does it determine anything.
A man is reborn, anew, every morning…her changes perspective and voila…he is now a different creature.
Therefore, history tells us nothing about nothing.
Studying animals, social systems, galaxies is a useless occupation, because nothing we learn can be applied in anything that will come.
There is no continuum…everything, or only humans, are inventing themselves, from scratch, from nothingness, as they go.

In closing I also wish to admit that the reason I come here is because I want to be accepted by all of you. I want to be loved.
I don’t really think you are mostly morons, here…that’s only a way of expressing my bitterness because you guys do not respect or like me.

I mean, really…what other reason can there be, other than something you guys can feel good about?
I hope that this apology will suffice to mend these broken bridges…and to allow me to speak my mind, without the censorship.
I notice how you guys interact…with all that respect and on-topic, casual jesting, that makes this place precious.
Who cares about that pretentious philosophy…we are here to get high on our fumes.

And no, this is not a thesis, because in modern parlance this is a rap, and I wants to me in-tune wit the current level of intelligence and edumucaton.

Humean…you are one of the dumbest, most vengeful, pitiful, fuck I’ve ever come across.

Who selected these morons to be moderators?
Ah, yes, the High-Puba of stupidity, Carleas.
They say a fish smells from the head…and this one stinks awful bad.
I like to take a whiff, just to appreciate what I’ve got.

Keep on truckin turd.

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Last week during the Malaysian Grand Prix, Sebastian Vettel disobeyed Team-orders, and went on to overtake his team-mate, who was in the lead and saving his tires. Vettel unfairly won against his team-mate and when he reaches the Paddock, he immediately apologised.
I submit that was the act of a child. He disobeyed the order, with full intention. He did not make a “MISTAKE”, he made a conscious choice about his action, then thought to be forgiven by saying sorry. How empty is that?

An apology is an empty gesture.
You have nothing to apologise for.
What you did, you did at the time for the best reasons at the time. As you were not inclined to desist at the time, what you are now doing is apologising for the person you were. That is unfair on your own memory. You are not so much apologising but blaming yourself for being the only person you could have been then.

In the normal course of events, when a person apologises to me for something I reject it, and ask them to explain their action. It is obvious enough that they never had any intention to harm of cause a problem. So I tell them an apology is not necessary or wanted. They acted in the best way they could a the time. It might have been that case that they were dismissive or negligent in consideration of some area, or unable to predict a bad outcome. But they are blameless for that. They were just being themselves.

For myself I never apologise. I always explain the situation that led up to the event in question, and let that do the talking.
An apology for me would be an admission of intentional guilt that I was now trying to back track on. That is the act of a child. Children are still learning about what is important, and the apologise/regret process helps them learn what’s good and bad.
By the time you are an adult you are supposed to know, and be conscious of the possible consequences of your actions, and don’t get a “Get Out of Gaol Free Card”.

For those that apologise to me. I forgive, but never forget. When people act in ways they later regret, it is a reflection on their character. I judge a person by the way they act and the things they do - what they say afterwards is less important.

So give yourself a break and cherish the person you were, it makes you what you are today.

Satyr, if your going to rant about people on this site, have the common decency to include me in as well, and highlight it. I’ve been banned more that you, and therefor outrank you. I’ve earned this common courtesy in you disrespecting me along side of the others.

Dan said he was by-polar and schitzo… is Satyr your unconscious opposite extreme? That would be really fucked up… Dan and Satyr in the same head together- unaware of one another, and none of us picking this up.

Satyr, you’re making a fool of yourself.

What you do isn’t philosophy, it’s some weird combination of poetry, sophistry and bigotry.

I’m starting to think that you really don’t realize that.

It’s getting sadder…Satyr.

Maybe I’m mistaken but I thought Satyr in on a life time ban.
That would mean you are talking to yourself.

No- Satyr reads this stuff, and there isn’t really such thing as a lifetime ban- if that started, all you would have to do is periodically seed this site with new accounts, behave the first few posts, and us a firefox plugin to hide your ISPs in order to get around moderator intolerance. You can rack up a posting spree with the multiple accounts rather fast once the accounts have been approved.

Satyr by default in being Satyr isn’t cut off from the discussion- you know where to find him if your sad enough to want to walk into his loveshack and have a chitchat with him. However, this is hardly the point- he should be allowed to come here and talk to us in reverse, and reply to our ideas.

And poetry as a form of thinking can be highly intuitive and highly philosophical- have you ever looked into the depths the Sufi have brought it, that western writers like Tennyson at times took it?

Being a poet is qualification enough to enter into the hall of philosophy… however, once there, be aware we reserve the right to mock you, and slap you around like a little girl and put you into headlocks and give you nuggies till you cry uncle, cause you a bitch. None the less, even a little bitch can be a philosopher.

How remarkably eloquent of you.
I particularly like you playful use of the phrase; “you a bitch.”