Lets imagine that as like human consciousness is born of the machine [physical apparatus], the universe manifests a universal consciousness.
Would ‘it’ have causality effecting everything even in its mind? ~ like we do I mean.
The world is still the world, and God would be experiencing causality except at the universal scale.
There is one difference between us and him perhaps; where consciousness is a product of the body/brain and is >in< the world, the product of the universe would necessarily be outside the world/universe. Given that ‘the product of a thing’ is greater than or other than ‘the thing itself’. Like a machine produces something which itself is not the machine.
Is your OP analogous to the ‘clay and the potter’ allegory?
Assuming it might be …
The imagery that proceeds from the ‘clay and the potter’ allegory has the ‘two’ … both the clay and the potter … connected physically … the hand touching the clay … the clay being content to be malleable. Even on completion the owner of the hand admires his work.
One defines the universe as all that there is then there can be nothing outside of it for that would be impossible
The product of a thing may be separate from the thing that produces it but this does not make it greater than it
Well here the potters wheel is itself turning and has robotic hands to form the world [like causality]. Where the consciousness of the universe or an existent God, would be the ‘product’ of that ~ like we are the product of our bodies/brains.
surreptitious57
If one does yes, however there is something outside of it, ‘the universe’ is a classification of the collection of all existent things. All of which derive from non-existent things, namely quantum particles in superposition. Secondly, the universe began, and so there must have causally been something there prior to it, I’d say information as potential [from the previous universe].
the set; ‘all existent things’ also changes with every moment that passes.
So now you got two or more existent things/universes, ergo reality contains more than one example of existence, an outside of either. Call this two [or more; ‘x,y,z,’] spheres of existence, and they must exist within a containing 3rd sphere. Reality is the collection of all things, contained in something [the 3rd sphere] which surpasses all = eternity.