I had a original post, but it was kind of worded in a juvenile tone. It was basically as worded below:
Anarchy is bizarre, and will probably lead to death. Don’t pursue it. Or become a Mason.
Read on to find out why.
I dont really get this post at all. Seems fucking stupid, but whatever.
read on what
Here’s something that sums this up somewhat.
As Pav has said here, up until this point, anarchy has been some CIA-playground controlled counter-culture zone where dissidence is extinguished in any numbers of ways. Now, though, as per the plan I’ve explicitly been laying out over the past 6 years or however many years, the anarchist essence–the same essence of the satanic/masonic tradition–namely, chaos, is being pulled forth from the a clandestine daydream it’s involved in and wake it up with the biggest ritual this world has seen since 9/11, obviously, but likely since the (public) pre-history of man.
‘Anarchists’ can be compared to the friction between the match and cement near the wick of the ignition of the bomb. If that’s really the role that you want to play, I would ask why.
To me you’re the lowest level Mason–you know, maybe just someone with one or two public degrees, instead of inner degrees; basically, most of us–but regardless, you share that love for the passion of disorder. And then orderly handshakes which from all of that. Whatever the case, to them, you’re expendable. Are you? Do you have such an OCD love for a lack of oversight which exists in all of nature at most times that you’re willing to combust for the cause? What the hell.
Anarchists, heed my call. Either become a Mason, and get involved with that darkness, or take a couple of deep breaths and just read some alternative history. Which automatically leads to occult (self) learning, which leads to actual rebellion. The greatest form of rebellion you can have comes from within; that is, having the functional ability to effect the universe in a manner of different ways. Some things are what people might classify as magic, but magicians have always abhorred such definitions for things, just like philosophers do; the difference between the two is one chooses to cloth themselves in certain words because, well, the group knows words have power whereas another wonders endlessly as to how.
If you can see enough of the meta-view to realize, or understand how and why systemic overhauls through chaos can or should happen then I think I owe it to yourself to step back from the fight. I’m still not convinced that the fight needs to happen. Or, at the very least, not in the physical violence way that the end of a civilization (and the start of another) can occur.
I dont know, your whole post just seems dumb except for like the last 3 sentences. government and the state wishes to suck everything into the void. anarchism is not disorder, but thats typical bullshit that most people delude themselves with. anarchists resist because they realize that pretty soon there will be nothing left of humanity.
The OP is definitely having a great deal of difficulty with reasoning, however, that does not mean that there is not a real idea in there somewhere.
As far as social change is concerned, let us look at some mysticism, the mark of the head and the hands. A simple metaphor which means how well one thinks determines what one does. If one really wants to improve the lot of man, simply teach him to think. All else will attend to itself. And, when one displays a very sharp lack of ability to convey ideas, well, it speaks for itself.
I would suggest that the OP push the button ------->
Look, all you need to know is this,
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQFenJSs7uw[/youtube]
Is going to pan out much better for you than,
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDH9Jq5AWkQ[/youtube]
No. Anarchists resist because they don’t like what’s going on, and seek to change the exterior instead of their interior.
Now, imagine a body without rules.
This asks the following question: Does public philosophical teach you to think? I would say the evidence, just looking around, arrives us at no. Certain people on this forum are such glaring examples.
Mysticism, for all the criticisms you can throw against it, generally espouse pretty solid ideas. At least in most cases. Alchemy is pretty convoluted. Regardless, true mystics fade into the mist. So verification towards that end becomes harder for the average person to achieve, and hence, the esoteric remains such.
Who said I learned what I know in public centers of so called education? My teacher has been of different origins. And what I teach, is not in schools. That is why I am here. The Vid I AM Principles of Self Realization you might find opposed to everything taught in schools.
I know, but I’m not going to type out the vague shifting definition to suit whoever’s current needs.
When I say it I mean the overarching philosophy of ‘intelligently not having authority’ or ‘ordered disorder’ or ‘small sustainable pods where work is managed according to DnD dice’ or whatever.
Don’t be mad I’m not getting the definition right. There is no authority over the philosophy behind not having authority.
Um, no one? I didn’t realize we were talking about you.
When you use the word Philosophy, there are two connotations of it, one of them refers to me.
That actually made me laugh pretty hard.
Ah, but seriously, though; your name is not Philosophy.
Wow, you don’t associate well do you. I do teach how to think. I have even discovered a new branch of geometry to demonstrate an identity between 2 logic systems and 2 analogic systems.
The principles of grammar I am developing, were first explored by a very few ancient Greeks. They apply to all reasoning systems.
You say you have an interest in truth. Perhaps you might take a hard look at the possibilities I expound.
- I don’t know Im not really into chaos magic or any of that shit because as a christian I am not really interested in opening myself to possession by evil forces or demonic entities.
Thanks for the Warriors clip though I gotta remember to watch that shit again.
-
I don’t really get what youre saying because the exterior is related to the interior. There is not a complete dichotomy and never can be. The rules of the body are not the same as the rules of the state and in many cases, especially the modern day, they are opposed to it. The current system is an affront to nature and as such negatively impacts human life as well.
-
The esoteric remains such because most people are unwilling to put in the time and effort into comprehending the forces that pervade the universe and nature. There is nothing hidden about the esoteric but human stupidity simply makes its perception not be as prevalent.
-
I don’t like your use of the term disorder because it makes it sound like the main goal of the anarchist is just to harm human beings when it is to liberate them from being consumed by the void that is modern society and live harmoniously within the universe the way they were ideally intended to. that was my main problem with it just the connotation.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05xkBzqP-NA[/youtube]
No thanks. I’m Christian, and I don’t want to open myself up to demons and shit.
I lost my post. I will try to re-write it.
There are some things I’d like to say as regards this whole subject.
There is a difference between anarchy and athenian direct democracy. It’s possible to have a self governing city state. It’s entirely possible. It’s been done. Also, not all rules are bad. The body needs rules to function. Some anarchists feel like all rules are bad. What we have is a corrupt and inflexible government on one side, and anarchism on the other side. Polarized opposites. Controlled opposition. At present, our government isn’t pure evil. It’s composed of human beings. It needs repair and improvement. We don’t need a violent uproar. Violence isn’t constructive. Progress is almost always constructive, not destructive.
Also about magic. A surprising percent of ceremonial magic is devout to making pacts with demons.
People feel drawn to demons I believe because they symbolize a mixture of super natural power and immorality.
Allot of people out there would behave differently if they could get away with it.
Also it is ironic that some demons are more moral than humans, but they hide it well, because they are very strategical beings. They reveal only certain types of images, emotions, thoughts, etc.
I don’t know why someone would turn to satan after either not believing in christianity, or wanting something useful. Evil isn’t useful or productive or helpful. And yet there is satanic nonsense in the occult community, too.
I believe that even the simplest of imps can tell you just as much if not more than a demon lord or satan itself. It’s really, really strange, how illogical human beings are.
I posted a bit in the religion forum about the undead aswel.
Undead cycles are like feed back loops where you keep on killing yourself and eating it and reviving yourself. This filth is useful for demons. They love to collect shells and inject themselves into human bodies.
Our immune system is based in our awareness and our sympathy. Meanwhile, immortal cancers are based on “me first” kinds of things, where one part of the body stops serving the rest. Normal cells commit suicide when need be. This may sound strange, but that’s just how it is.
The borg is usually what people think of when collectivism is mentioned. Everyone is a zombie that can’t think for themselves. Well we have that now, in a really “free” assed system of government and economy. No. Collectivism means mutual benifite. Yes there is some sacrifice, but at least it means something and helps.
I’ve been hoping that my sanity will outlast the insane beings which are more powerful than myself. I’ve been hoping on some sort of self preservation of living energy. I’m hoping that good things are logical and reasonable things, and that reason and logic is so good and useful that it survives. The earth is a crazy, crazy place. And usually if someone gains power here, they didn’t earn it in the slightest. It was probably inborn.
Polarity is a big thing when undermineing a paradigm. For example, atheism rejects all spirituality, along with religion. It’s like surgery where they cut out the whole organ instead of finely removing the crap and saving the organ. Anarchy is again a polarity, an imbalance. We need to reduce our dependancy on rulership and stuff like that. But we shouldn’t declare war on it.
I see polarity in almost all paradigms. Yes life is frail, it’s easy to damage it, but it’s much more profitable to form some sort of symbiosis with it. Paradigms are easy to destroy… but…
Some beings require polarity, but humans don’t require it. They are mesmerised by it, but it’s like a bad drug. We don’t truly need it.
Excellent post
AF, are you really a christian?
You make a clear distinction between exterior and interior, um, well I like to call them realms.
In your interior realm, if I may be so intrusive, are you christian?
Finally, do you propose an alternate exterior philosophy to anarchy for anarchists, or do you simply suggest they (we? you know, I just don’t tend to identify with the idea that anarchy is an end) abandon exterior philosophies altogether and pursue esoterism before (instead of?) staking any claims in the exterior realm?
- edit -
Now that I think of it, does each person have a private interior realm or do we all share one? I mean, does my use of “interior” pre-edit make sense?