Anti-Israel and Jewish Problems in the U.K.

Just please watch the numerous episodes before you comment or react. It is as I have often believed, that the current level of hate is simply a rehash of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion rubbish, which was debunked a century ago. Littlejohn is not Jewsih, and is very much British:

web.israelinsider.com/Articles/A … /11670.htm

Jews and Muslims are both full of bullshit, if we are talking about religion, politics and culture. But, if we’re talking about race and blood, Jews and Muslims are both basically “good”. One problem is when people confuse ideologies with genetics.

aww…i was expectin lil john the rapper, come on now.

that would have been very entertaining and informing at the same time.

The problem is getting worse and worse. I don’t want to sound like a chicken running around yelling: “The sky is falling! The sky is falling!” But I am getting more and more convinced that the Jews will once more become the scapegoats for the problems in the world. That the world still sees Jews as “Jews,” rather than individuals is already a tell-tale sign.

Recently, I had the opportunity to hang out with a few Russian guys from Siberia, who are staying in the States for the summer. I knew better than to let them know that I was of Jewish origin (that’s right, it’s 2007). These Russian fellas are very well educated, very cool, very nice guys. We all had a great time - became friends. I’d even visit them if I ever go traveling through Siberia. They were talking about going to the beach, and I happened to recommend Brighton Beach, in Brooklyn, New York where there is a large Russian community present. One of the guys, Victor, who happened to be very well-spoken in English, very intelligent and finely mannered (a musician), immediately became dissatisfied and almost looked like he was about to vomit.

Victor said, “Those aren’t real Russians; they’re Jews. Very different - we don’t like Jews.” My best-friend’s girlfriend, Anne-Marie, an Italian Catholic, saw the irritation that must of arose on my face and asked, “Why don’t you like Jews?” Now, although I speak Russian very well, I had not let them known this for I was very interested to learn as much as I could from them without inhibiting my Russian comrades (people tend to be really honest only when the camera of the ‘Other’ is off; or in this case, ear).

So Victor immediately turned to his friend Kolya, and said in Russian, (a lot of the effect is lost in the translation): "Because they all greet one another as: “Good evening my rich/dear one; mwa, mwa,” he made two little kisses in the air. Then, in English, as he rotated his index finger around his temple, Victor said: “They are very clever; very smart.”

Anne-Marie, looking puzzled like the rest of us by his by his reasons, spoke up with, “Well, I’m Jewish.” And immediately Victor said: “Yes, but you’re cool Jewish.”

That was it. All his reasons. As for me, I still like Victor - we are still friends. Shared a frozen space ice-cream with him at Dorny Park. Will still visit him on my way through Siberia one day; that is, if he doesn’t mind a Jewish rat in his home. If even good, smart, educated, “cool,” people like Victor are susceptible to anti-Semitism in 2007, then really, I fear, the sky is falling. Little by little. One mind at a time.

Of course, the question is, what can be done? Right? Communication: opening up a dialogue - actually talking about these things that for whatever irrational reason make us sick to the stomach when the subject is broached. For one day, the sky might just fall again: it’ll be lying on the ground in broken glass.

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There’s a difference between racial Jews and ideological Zionists.

Biggest mistakes:
Targetting the racial Jew instead of the ideological Zionist.
Blaming blood instead of personal-character.

Maybe if Jews didn’t have special laws protecting their version of history from being disputed then they wouldn’t be so widely resented as part of a corrupt and hypocritical elite.

guardian.co.uk/commentisfree … 60,00.html

Holocaust denial is a freedom allowed in the U.S.A. White, Black and Hispanic supremest speech is allowed, as long as it does not promote violence.

I happen to agree with the First Amendment, however, the Holocaust did happen, and it appears that Holocaust denial, and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, along with the blood libels against Jews is gaining ground regardless of how invalid these claims are.

Like many others, I too fear that Jews, sadly will again be scapegoated, as they already are in most of the Middle-East.

This kind of thing has happened a few times.

Of course! Anti-semitism is the Jews’ fault, and only appeared after the anti-revisionist laws were passed! Silly me!

PS: are all Jews part of a “corrupt and hypocritical elite” or just some of them? Or have I totally misunderstood your point?

Yes, you have ‘totally’ misunderstood my point. Some Jews are part of a corrupt and hypocritical elite. Look at the number of Jewish people in Bush’s government, for example, compared to the proportion of the overall US population. But Jews per se are neither part of the elite, nor part of the opposition to it, nor the victims of the backlash against it. It depends on the particular Jew.

My point was rather that by making a specific part of history immune from the ongoing revisionism that the rest of history endures, one makes of the Jews a special case, and in doing so, make them a target for people looking for a scapegoat. While this isn’t the intention of such laws, it is the result. Just as positive discrimination fuels racism against ethnic minorities. Just as having a ‘commission for women and equality’ fuels anti-female sexism, and anti-feminism.

There’s also the rather more abstract ethical point that in placing such a blatant restriction on freedom of speech we make ourselves just like the fucking Nazis we’re thereby condemning. Which makes us part of the hypocrisy. I don’t want to be part of the hypocrisy. I don’t want to be an anti-Semite either.

Then we mostly agree! Hooray! (and sorry for taking the piss)

On the other hand, since sexism and racism is indeed a problem, then should a solution not be sought? And if so, then creating a special commission to investigate the issues and formulate possible solutions does not seem like a bad idea.

That’s alright, this is a delicate issue. It’s not like I overwhelmed the reader with the clarity of my first post.

Sure, it’s not the existence of the commission that really bothers me, it’s the name. If it was genuinely concerned with equality then it wouldn’t have such a blatantly gendered name. If it was a vague attempt by the government to gain more women voters then it’s utterly ridiculous.

And, like all government commissions, it is sort of in its interests to keep the problem going, otherwise it would lose its funding and status. Once you’ve established a commission it is very difficult to get rid of it, even if it does (by design or accident) solve the problem. When was the last time you heard of a commission being closed down because it had achieved its aim? I honestly can’t think of a single example off the top of my head, though one may come to me in time (or with your provocation).

All right, I’m back for a quick response. As Dan points out, it is obviously stupid to mix supposed genes and criminal zionism. Imovho though, the communication starts with criminal zionism - the dislike of which has nothing irrational about it. If that is singled out, then retarded generalizations stand a much better chance of being avoided.

One must be aware that the Russian mafia is in fact a Kosher nostra [admittedly every mafia boss in Russia has an Israeli passport]. It is largely accepted that the Russian mafia is behind the prostitution of thousands of young girls across the world, and in particular in Israel (where they live as slaves). The following article is quite enlightening. Major kudos to the Jewish investigator who was seemingly done away with because he was trying to shed a light on the russian mafias preeminent role in illegal activities in the world.
http://www.erichufschmid.net/RussianMafia_RaphaelJohnson_TBR.pdf

Criminal zionism was also the Frankist talmud inspired bankers (headed by Jacob Schiff) financing the bolshevik revolution, and hence their responsibility in millions of deaths in russia. [google him]

It must also be said that russian jews were victims of these same zionist bankers, given that they fomented pogroms in the late 1800s to encourage a wave of emigration towards the US (this is detailed in Myron Fagan’s tapes, which are easily accessible on the net).

In fact, Jewish people have historically been amongst the first victims of criminal zionists. And this will again be the case, if the NWO zionists have their way in whipping up another world war in which a sizeable part of Israels population would perish.

At the end of the day, criminal zionism is nobody’s friend, neither the Jews nor the non Jews.

Hopefully a little communication will go a long way in dissipating bloody misunderstandings.

The Russian slave market is well known in Israel, and many Israeli media reporters have written expose’s regarding this.
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Zionism is simply Jews wanting a homeland. Regardless, of the number of prisoners released and the land cedes, the Arabs will continue attacking.

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Being a Zionist is not criminal, I am a Zionist, and support Israel in her efforts to survive.

yes…

I did say criminal zionism, not zionism, which has different acceptions, of which “wanting a homeland” is the most restrictive [not to mention that the majority and maybe up to 90% of “Jews” are not semites but historically from Khazaria (ie ex Soviet union - see Koestlers "Thirteenth tribe) - but that’s another matter].

As I recently wished to understand more precisely what zionism was (in fact a tangled web), I noted the following from Chris Bjerknes, who has a site “dedicated to protecting all Jews from anti-semitic and racist Jews”, and who I have found to be quite knowledgeable and driven by humanistic values. Some pretty heavy stuff, so obviously it is not something one can just repeat without having evaluated its veracity to some extent, and crosschecked with other researchers, in particular Jewish insiders. Actually, I believe Bjerknes is Jewish. Obviously, I’d be interested in hearing any caveats. Below is an audio interview of the man.

That’s not an uninteresting piece of zionist propaganda on Sweden :wink: Actually, I only lived in Sweden briefly - when I discovered this site - and I never read the Swedish press… so it wouldn’t be applicable. You may want to consider the following article though: http://www.iamthewitness.com/by_Bollyn_Lindh-murder.htm

All right, this is too time consuming once again, so I will not come back for answers.

Nice tunes to conclude:

Btw, I have close Jewish friends who HATE orthodox religious Jews (which isn’t my case, I don’t know any).

Ciao.

Edit Just in: http://iamthewitness.com/Conquering-the-USA.html

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Aspacia,

You are so clueless… lol. You wouldn’t recognize truth and justice if it hit you in the face. In fact, it is hitting you in the face…

With your outstanding historical pedigree and acumen, i’m sure you could manage to promptly dig up the origin of the expression “the war to end all wars” in WWI, leitmotiv of a handful of Woodrow Wilsons advisors, mirrored by “la derniere des derniere” in France. [Hint, it is not an apocalyptic prophecy to be found in the Coran or the Bible.]

Continue your monologue if you wish.

Be well.

:sunglasses:

You try to be well and attempt to not perpetrate blood libels against an ethnic group. Most of the links you have posted support the idea that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are factual, and they are not. :wink:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6914959.stm

The King David Hotel was blown up by jews wanting a homeland.