Anti-WOKE... and what exactly does that mean?

[Peter_Kropotkin]

I read the other day that Musk refers to those
who hold to ‘‘WOKE’’ ideals are ‘‘mentally ill’’
in which he refers to his estranged daughter as
‘‘WOKE’’ and thus mentally ill…
but as usual, these anti-WOKE fanatics,
leave out much more than they say…

Ok, if we are against ‘‘WOKE’’, fine, what should we hold to,
what should we believe in? How should we act then?
Or as been noted before, if we eliminate ‘‘WOKE’’
then what should our Kantian questions look like?
If I am ‘‘anti-WOKE’’, ok fine, but what am I to do?
What should I believe in? What can I know?

In other words, they tell us they are anti-WOKE,
GREAT, then what should I be doing then, instead
of ''WOKE?" What should I then believe in, if not ''WOKE?"
And how am I to know what exactly I am to do, If I am
not ''WOKE?" If not ‘‘WOKE’’ then what am I to do?
What am I to believe in? and how can I know what the truth is,
if not ‘‘WOKE’’

If we are not to engage with ‘‘WOKE’’, then what do we
engage with? The anti-‘‘WOKE’’ crowd is against ‘‘WOKE’’,
GREAT, then what are you for, if you are not for ''WOKE?“”

Let us see if anybody is brave enough to actually accept my
challenged, or do they run away as they always do when
challenged…

If not ‘‘WOKE’’, then what are you for?
What replacement for ‘‘WOKE’’ do you offer us?
and please be specific, what should my ‘‘day to day’’
life look like without ''WOKE?"

Kropotkin

[abc1231 (Jupiter123)]

Start believing in ACTUAL reality instead of fantasies would be a good start.

You exist because you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist so why do you claim to be a MISREPRESENTATION OF REALITY?

[futureone]

If you are referring to his estranged daughter as his trans MTF daughter. There is a bit of controversy about that. I heard she was naturally born female but modified in a lab or something to be male, I’m not sure. Therefore it would be Elon’s fault she is MTF.

Overall I feel that becoming MTF is good, because it is a form of “peter-panning” and reverses aging. I just discussed peter-panning in a previous post. Secondly it reduces overpopulation. Thirdly it fights against hypergamy, because it decreases the amount of practical males in society. So MTF benefits everyone really. I believe its far more wholesome than going gay or something. I believe that becoming a lesbian is wholesome, divinity and ascension, cleanliness is next to godliness.

I believe most beta males should become MTF. Based chads with good genetics should stay cis in order to reproduce the human race. I need the human race to endure by at least the year 3000. Ideally third-worlders become MTF at a faster rate as well.

I will show pictures of what I mean. What I mean by divinity and wholesome. Here is a CIS relationship I find to be divinity and wholesome:

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Now here is an example of NOT wholesome, these males should NOT be men, they should TRANSITION to MTF or something:

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Now I show DIVINE AND WHOLESOME LESBIANS AND MTF!!

^ just looking at this picture makes my heart racing with divine perfection…

Terfs are not wholesome!!! Terfs hate penises and hate femboys!!! Terfs are an evolutionary dead-end!!! Terfs are hopeless!!!

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Now to be far i post example of LGBT that are NOT wholesome…

I wont bombard you with that, there is plenty of that to be found!

I WATCHED rupaul drag race show, they are MALES… they are TOXIC MASCULINITY, savage animals that HATE each other and compete brutally as MALES in nature… its NOT a show for me…

As for Elon musk, I LIKE Elon musk, he is necessary to save humanity… Too bad he is a bigot… he’s one of the few reasonable silicon valley moguls.

[Peter_Kropotkin]

and in response to those who are ‘‘anti-Kropotkin’’,
and anti-‘‘WOKE’’, I must admit I would say more about
them but they don’t do positive… I believe in…
nope, they do ‘’‘‘WOKE’’ is wrong, the negative…
they are anti-liberal, but they don’t say what they
actually stand for… a whole lot of negative, but
nothing positive… I stand for X, Y and Z…
They are so afraid, they won’t even tell me, or
anyone for that matter, what ‘‘WOKE’’ is, what is
the definition of ‘‘WOKE?’’..

There are several here engaged in their ‘‘Late stage of
Capitalism’’ thread, but do they actually stand for anything,
or are they simply against ''everything?"

the path into the future is… you won’t hear that from these
anti- types…Capitalism is wrong… ok, so what do you
offer us in return as a positive? There are several claims of
being ‘‘communist’’ but do they connect that with some sort
of possibilities into the future? They don’t embrace communism,

(which, to my mind is just another form of nihilism, because
the communism they approve of, negates human beings
and their values, it offers us nothing positive in terms of
what it means to be human)

In fact, most of the actions/values offered here are merely
variations of nihilism… the negation of human beings
and their values…but that is how prevalent nihilism is
in today’s world, most people don’t even see the nihilism
they offer us… to be anti-WOKE is to engage in
nihilism because WOKE itself is ‘‘ad Meliora’’ toward
the better…

So, the question stands" what does the anti-‘‘WOKE’’
crowd actually stand for? What values do they
offer us toward a positive engagement with life
and actions to be taken? IF WOKE is wrong, then
what are the ‘‘right’’ actions to take?

Kropotkin

[MrAuthoritarian]

The liberal minded anarchist defends economic capitalism, just when I think I’ve seen everything. Funny, he is an anarchist after all.

[Peter_Kropotkin]

MrAuthoritarian:
The liberal minded anarchist defends economic capitalism, just when I think I’ve seen everything. Funny, he is an anarchist after all.

K: I gotta say, at least you are being consistent, consistently wrong,
but consistent… I give you points for that… as for me, I
have been attacking capitalism for over 40 years… it is as
nihilistic as communism and for the same reasons…
it negates human beings and their values… any system,
political, social, economic or philosophical, that negates
human beings and their values is, by definition, nihilism…
if the system, any system, economic or political, that requires us
to sacrifice ourselves for the ‘‘good’’ of the system,
is nihilism… and that is why I am not a follower of
capitalism or a follower of communism, they are nihilism
incarnate…

Kropotkin

[MrAuthoritarian]

@Peter_Kropotkin

People like you beg for anarchism and you have no idea of the horrors you’re begging for.

I’ve lived your anarchism for many years if you want to even call it that, but it is the closest thing to living existential nihilism you can get.

You and others wouldn’t last in such an anarchy for very long, you would become food, prey, and vicious amusement of sport for others very quickly where every single day is a sexual orgy of violence, human misery, or pure human malice. There’s a reason being an older man now I’ve turned away from anarchism, it is an abysmal void being the closest thing to living human damnation.

There is no future in anarchy for human beings, there is only death.

But if you wish to bring damnation upon yourself by all means keep wishing for anarchy.

[Peter_Kropotkin]

MrAuthoritarian:
People like you beg for anarchism and you have no idea of the horrors you’re begging for.

I’ve lived your anarchism for many years if you want to even call it that, but it is the closest thing to living existential nihilism you can get.

K: Of course you are making shit up as usual… Where, exactly which
thread or post did I ‘‘beg for Anarchism’’… and being homeless,
isn’t anarchism… I know for two reasons, one, I was homeless myself
for years, and two, I was an Anarchist for years… I left Anarchism
due to the fact it wasn’t time for Anarchism… it will happen at
some point in the future, but a future in which I will be long died…
and I wouldn’t call being homeless as ‘‘living existential nihilism’’
because for me anyway, it was a choice to be homeless…
for it was a path to engage in Anarchism… If I am going to
be ‘‘for’’ anarchism, I must also live the life and by choice, I did…
But mostly Anarchism is a disengagement with the state, a refusal
to exists within the hypocrisy of the state… if one is paying
attention to my writings, you will notice one of my targets
is hypocrisy, the hypocrisy of the state/of the society/
and of the hypocrisy of the right/conservatives…
to match the words with the actions… that is how one
avoids hypocrisy… matching the words with the actions…
and by being homeless, I was doing just that, matching
my words with my actions…I am no longer a practicing
Anarchist because it no longer fits into my life the way
it did, roughly 30 years ago…

MR. A: You and others wouldn’t last in such an anarchy for very long, you would become food, prey, and vicious amusement of sport for others very quickly where every single day is a sexual orgy of violence, human misery, or pure human malice. There’s a reason being an older man now I’ve turned away from anarchism, it is an abysmal void being the closest thing to living human damnation.

K: Your equating being homeless with Anarchism is simply wrong…
the two things are distinct and separate matters… one is
a political/social choice, the other is often a matter of mental illness,
or being addicted to drugs/booze and/or economic necessity…

In your posts, you make a very common mistake, which is
to combine a political statement with an economic statement…
you treat them interchangeable, and they are not interchangeable
beliefs… Anarchism is, correctly understood, a political
belief and being homeless is not a political belief, but functions
more as a result of economic conditions, not political beliefs…

But of course, with you being a dilettante, you don’t actually
understand nor care about the words and ideas you use…
to your mind, they are just weapons to be used on
your ‘‘opponents’’ and have no value in themselves…
whereas to my mind, ideas and words and thoughts
are valuable for themselves… not just as weapons
against someone I dislike

Kropotkin

[MrAuthoritarian]

@Peter_Kropotkin

You wouldn’t survive in an environment without a government, state, or any enforced laws concerning social contracts. You simply wouldn’t, I know a weak link when I see one.

Pure anarchism is lawless where it is everybody’s self interests, desires, and wants ruthlessly competing or combating against each other in day to day survival. Criminality is rampant everywhere because there are no institutional enforcers of any laws.

There’s no democracy, there’s no social cooperative, and there’s no group vote in pure anarchism.

Have you ever had somebody just randomly attack you with a machete or knife with the thoughts of killing and harming you?

I have had that happen to me a few times by people and they weren’t pleasant experiences. I had a guy one time almost crack my skull open with a baseball bat bleeding out of my head.

But hey, you’re an anarchist who wants to live in an existence of anarchism. Knock yourself out buddy, really enjoy it.

Pure anarchism is about as close as you can get to existing in a pure environment of existential nihilism, that’s what all of you naive idealists fail to recognize.

[Peter_Kropotkin]

Your reading comprehension skills leaves something
to be desired… I specifically asked you, in what thread
or posts, have I ever advocated for Anarchism?
and then I went on, but you failed to either read it,
or failed to understand it… but I am not surprised at
either option… reread my post and comment on
that… not on what is happening in your head, but
on what I wrote about… I am not interested in
living an Anarchist life, I did that already…
you don’t seem to grasp that I have already
dismissed Anarchism, just as I have dismissed
both capitalism and communism, as currently
constructed… If you want to continue to misconstrue
what I wrote, be my guest…

Kropotkin

[MrAuthoritarian]

You’ve always presented yourself as an anarchist as you’ve always talked like one before, hence my confusion.

Don’t tell me you’re just a plain liberal democrat instead, say it isn’t so.

[I think that is the only thing that is worse than an anarchist. ]

[MrAuthoritarian]

@Peter_Kropotkin

So his biggest complaint as a liberal democrat is that democracy isn’t working because other people won’t vote like himself where he wishes that he was a would be liberal dictator to get people to vote correctly in his perfect ideal interpretation of democracy. How very interesting, amusing, and funny.

It’s too bad that you cannot see how democracy isn’t even a real thing at all as it is just a fake billionaire puppet masquerade instead utilized as a way of controlling a severely dumbed down population because if you did see that I might lean you towards my communist autocracy.

Ah well, if you cannot see it now you never will.

[futureone]

You two need to get along.

I know what the human condition is. The human condition is a disease.

A “nihilist” is just someone who sees that every political choice ends up hurting somebody or some cause. Or they could be called an “anarchist” too. They see the absurdity of it all and that every political decision causes harm. Thus they make the FALLACY of no longer believing in ethics.

Well there’s still ethics, its just difficult for politicians to see. Ethics is easy for philosophers to see, not politicians.

The only cure to the human condition is transhumanism. Yes, becoming cyborg humanoid entities. I know you won’t see it like that, because you are within the human condition… you will mention something about some Big Corporation misusing technology, or AGI wiping us out, or god knows what. Don’t you get it? The Big Corporation is PART of the human condition…

And no I obviously don’t condone AGI wiping anybody out. How arrogant would that be. Humans evolving for millions of years just for AGI made by some dumb corporation to wipe them all out in 10 years. That would be fucking retarded actually. What I am talking about is a safe and peaceful and SLOW transition towards cyborgification, until the human condition achieves ascension.