Antony Flew’s “There Is A God”

[Ichthus77 (Ichthus77 (formerly She™))]

Go check out the Philosophy chat and see how that conversation would go if we actually had it. The one with Exaltist Ethan regarding Exaltism. I’m sorry, but you have to make sure your thoughts are coherent before you approach me with them.

Exaltist_Ethan

2024-04-20 15:29:04 UTC

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We really don't need to be much "better" to control vast areas of The Omniverse

[felix_dakat]

If you don’t want to talk about gnosticism here, that’s okay with me.

[Ichthus77 (Ichthus77 (formerly She™))]

Here are links I have discussed it. Care to join me in them? offers elbow Click the down arrow:

Antony Flew’s “There Is A God”

The New Testament authors redressed an early version of gnosticism from the get-go. The “gnostic gospels” were much later & never accepted. The current canon was accepted before that. Chain of custody stuff. Too simple. More: Deism is not maximally great. Love is not love without demonstration.

[felix_dakat]

@Antony Flew’s “There Is A God”

The New Testament authors redressed an early version of gnosticism from the get-go. The “gnostic gospels” were much later & never accepted. The current canon was accepted before that. Chain of custody stuff. Too simple. More: Deism is not maximally great. Love is not love without demonstration.

Please quote the texts you think refer to gnosticism so we can examine them as well as your definition of Gnosticism so we can see if the quotes match it.

First and second century texts including the NT suggest that contrary to the catholic narrative, Christianity was never a unified movement. For centuries gnosticism was known mostly by its catholic opponents because they attempted to destroy the evidence.

[Ichthus77 (Ichthus77 (formerly She™))]

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Antony Flew’s “There Is A God”

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[Ichthus77 (Ichthus77 (formerly She™))]

@Ichthus77

I am interested in knowing how Flew’s contribution as an atheist to “Did Jesus Rise from the Dead?” (with Habermas and Miethe, published 2003) differs from his contribution as a deist to “Did the Resurrection Happen?” (again with Habermas, published 2009).

Previously discussed (mostly) on ILP:

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1. We discussed Tim Keller’s “The Reason for God” on ILP. Specific to the incarnation and resurrection are chapters 12 and 13. Listed in reverse:

https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/search?context=topic&context_id=21448&q=RFG%20in%3Atitle%20order%3Alatest_topic&skip_context=true

2. This never panned out into a discussion: Discuss Groothuis' "Christian Apologetics"? But I did it on my blog (and in person with some locals at a coffee shop) … here’s the index on my blog… Blog index for Douglas Groothuis’ "Christian Apologetics: A Comprehensive Case for Biblical Faith" | Ichthus77 see chapters 19-22.

3. WLC on the resurrection in Reasonable Faith… I don’t think I shared this on ILP for some reason: WLC's case for the resurrection - National Christian Apologetics | Examiner.com

4. A "Twelve Facts" resurrection logic puzzle

5. Undesigned coincidences in the Gospels - #7 by Ichthus77

I have other books that cover the incarnation and Resurrection, but I don’t think I discussed them on ILP. If you’re interested in discussing one of them and want a list to choose from, let me know. I have been wanting to discuss Cold Case Christianity for quite some time (I’ve mentioned it a handful of times on ILP). I discussed it in person with some locals at a coffee shop already. I’d be happy to discuss it here.

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