# Anyone have Zoot Allures Name, Prison Number, Prison?

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**Created:** [December 20, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/anyone-have-zoot-allures-name-prison-number-prison/43798 "2016-12-20T01:06:56Z")
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### Author: ![Mitra-Sauwelios](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/mitra-sauwelios/32/1235_2.png) [@Mitra-Sauwelios](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Mitra-Sauwelios)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/anyone-have-zoot-allures-name-prison-number-prison/43798/66 "2018-01-27T22:34:14Z")

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> [@Zoot Allures](#):
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> critics of the materialistic theory claim that instead of being aware of physical occurences in the brain, we are aware of sensations, feelings and thoughts. they seem to be saying that because we have no direct observation of this reducibility of mental states to physical states, it therefore doesn’t exist. this is a fallacious criticism. a second person point of view could observe the physical states in someones brain and correlate them to the mental states being experienced, i.e., joe feels happy while brain is in state x. the problem here is not a correspondence problem, but a causal problem; is brain state x actually the cause of joe feeling happy. unfortunately this cannot be known for the reasons hume put forth. the contiguity of events does not prove a causal connection between them.
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> there is a much better criticism than this: if the materialistic theory were true, the theory itself would be nothing but another set of physical events in the brain… and, any alternative theory would be merely be some other mental event. if that’s the case, how can one event in the brain constitute the truth, while another would constitute a falsehood?
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> an ‘event’ is neither true nor false. it either is or isn’t. it can be true that an event happened, or false that it happened, but if it happened, it would have to be true. therein lies the problem. theories of the mind are events, and therefore always true. but two different theories can’t both be right (true).
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> discuss.

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> [@Zoot Allures](#):
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> only two people wrote me the entire time i was in the joint. turd and phoneutria. turd wrote once but didn’t put a return address on the envelope, so they wouldn’t let me have it. after i was released on wednesday i finally read it… while sitting in front of a harris teeter waiting for a taxi to take me to the bus station. it was a profound and edifying experience. he had copied some stuff from a wikipedia article on some skeptics. sextus empiricus and another dude… agrippa or something like that. might discuss some of it with him later if i hear from him again.
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> phoneutria, on the other hand, maintained contact with me my whole bid, and, bless her soul, bought me some goodies to eat every month. she even bought me books and clothes. don’t know what i woulda done without her. probably woulda started extorting the inmates for their commissary, i dunno.
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> now check this out. what i am about to relate to you should blow your mind.
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> i call it the blue footed booby event… a coincidence unprecedented and unlike anything i’ve ever experienced before.
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> once in a while phoneutria would include in her letters a little doodle of something (she’s a great artist), and i would tear out pictures from national geographics and put quote bubbles above the characters, and send the picture with my letters to her. well this one time she drew a picture of two blue footed boobies standing beside each other and one says comically to the other ‘what are they looking at?’ or something like that. can’t remember exactly what it was.
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> now check this out. the day before i got that letter (maybe it was two days, can’t remember), i shit you not, i tore a picture of two blue footed boobies out of a national geographic, which i was going to send to her… with one booby saying to the other ‘why don’t you take a picture?’ i swear to god i’m not lying. they were exactly the same size and in the same position, standing beside each other, as in her doodle.
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> now how do you explain that? talk about non-local causality and spooky action at a distance! what are the chances of that happening?
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> i don’t think she believed me… and you probably don’t believe me either. i think i telepathically transmitted the image of the boobies i had in my mind, to her.

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