Are atoms immortal?

Are atoms immortal? Can they last forever and never “die”?

Atoms typical aren’t “alive”. Atoms are made up of quarks, and leptons and I think they even found evidence of smaller particles. There is a law of conservation of mass, generally governed by E=MC^2. Whenever chemical reaction takes place matter is not so much as “killed” but liberated into energy. However, don’t get any wrong ideas it takes a very very very small amount of matter of energy to power most chemcial reactions.

Something like 2kgs of Uranium was liberated in the hydrogen bomb explosion.

-Guy

Ok so like is that other stuff immortal and incapable of “dying” then?

Everything is immortal, it only dissipates, it doesn’t ‘die’. It is not from dust to dust, it is from light to light. We will become less complex until we are harmonious enough to propagate, then compress. All of these ‘realms’ are within one another.

What? Im talking science here not mysticism…If it dissipates then it is not immortal.

I’m talking science, also. You are thinking pomo physics, that’s all.

I dont understand what youre saying here.

Maybe my question is unclear…I am asking if there are any chemicals or elements or whatever that are infinite…that perhaps have just always existed for all eternity and have not come from anything else but have just always existed on their own???

Nothing stays in the same state for even one second. Your body is giving off radiation right now, changing completely, only unnoticed to human perception. Yet, the ‘parts’ are immortal.

Infinite is a speed, not a timespan.

Ok then maybe i misworded it again…I mean…is there anything that has just always existed on its own?

““Ok so like is that other stuff immortal and incapable of “dying” then?””

Muscular philosopher, dude, yes your Ideas have merit but it doesn’t
mean your right.

As for things dissipating, yes things go through changes. Like the chemical reaction 3 O2+engergy <—> 2 O3 for example…

You can argue that since the o2 has changes itself into ozone it no longer is the same thing it once was. It is completely up too you the way you take it.

Another example is a caterpillar changing into a butterfly, is the caterpillar dead?

My views, no the caterpillar is not dead, your views, who knows!

Keep in mind that the matter in this universe does not get destroyed. It is common knowledge that matter cannot be created or destroyed, just transformed

-Guy

You have to go smaller, as in the waves they are made up from. Fusion, for example, has to do with matter. Coalescence has to do with motion/energy.

The caterpillar has changed to a butterfly, which will keep changing. I agree and have said that nothing stays in the same state.

Nothing dies and nothing stays in it’s form for any measured time period. There is no such thing as the present in this reality.

I have always said the universe cannot be destroyed (maybe in other threads), it is perpetual. What makes it perpetual is its ellipse.

Yeah, the universe. It had no beginning and will have no end. It is perpetual.

What exactly is the universe?

She askig to many questions send in the feds

are you asking the meaning of life and the universe? The question that has pleaged man for centruys, the question asked when you stare up in to the blackness of space…the question of all existance?

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It is where motion takes place. Picture a point, or core that is infinitesimal or motionless. Motion moves outward in a quaquaversal manner all the while being compresses by the infinite. All motion and dimensions are in-between., caught in the sway of the opposing forces.
The relationship between particles and the waves they exist on give us our speed, or time.

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Yes, the answer is: space, the vacuum. It already is, that which ever has been, is now, and ever shall be, whether there be universe or not, whether there be gods or not.

You can’t explain vacuum until you show the opposing force of gravity, thus changing what ‘force’ really is. When this is done, the vacuum takes on a different meaning. It has been already done, by the way…:slight_smile:

But then where did this come from?

So I am to believe that vacuum’s never die? Vacuum energy cannot be set to zero so it must be included as a source of gravitation. Seeing as pomo’s do not understand gravitation and the supposed expansion, this put vacuum’s in a different light.