are big corporations really evil?

TheAdlerian:My point is that a company is always made up of people. There is no such thing as the company!

K: Have you ever worked? A while ago, I worked in a very large
corporation for 4 years and I discovered a truth. A corporation
changes people all the time. People are coming and going all the time
and still a corporation maintains its course, so is it the people?
Not if people come and go all the time in a corporation.
Because a corporation is not just people, but it is a culture,
an idea of what is expected. A corporation is a large monolithic,
very hard to move or change entity. It has momentum that is
hard to change or even focus. Think Titanic. The titanic (a boat corporation, whatever) changes people all the time, it doesn’t change
what the boat or corporation is.

Kropotkin

PK,

All of the people that work for any company agree to work there. They agree to buy into the concept that makes the corporation a reality.

So, it is not the corporation that’s “evil” but rather the employees and public that tolerate it’s existence.

Corporations are not just tolerated, but encouraged and supported. A corporation is a bit like Frankenstein’s Monster, it is an artifical life, but it is not fully in our control anymore.

We might question: Do our tools serve us, or do we serve our tools?

We might question: Do our tools serve us, or do we serve our tools?

That’s a good one and if we serve our tools, then why.

Corporations, at least in the legal sense, are entities in and of themselves.

Adlerian, if you haven’t I would recommend watching The Corporation. Now, it does have an obvious bias to it, but it includes some very interesting things to note. Its informative if you decide to look into some things. It sort of gives you an idea of how corporations can adjust people, without necessarily tipping the employees off to what its doing. Its sort of an overmind kind of idea.

a corporation is a government sanctioned excuse to be as selfish as possible. it sounds bad but thats really what capitalism is all about.

the problem is that people can be really harmfully selfish to other poor foreigners who they dont know and corporations can get extremely powerful.

they can get more power than any person due to limits on the liability of the investors and the ability to combine multiple investors. they can get more selfish due to the disconnect between who gives the orders and where the orders are being carried out.

i imagine its easier to order your friends in latin america to do your poor-exploiting dirty business than it is to actually go there and beat them up yourself. if you are the one single guy who made that decision, you can make it and then forget it. and all of the people you ordered will struggle with it and will eventually decide that they must follow the horrible orders so that they dont get fired, for their family and their financial security.

if the people who made the decision had to implement it themselves, then the people implementing it would be implementing it for the sake of profits, or a cushy little bonus, not for their desperately needed job security. its a lot easier to hurt people if it means you keep your job and not hurting them means you immediately become impoverished. its a lot easier to make the decision to hurt people if you dont see them and you never will and you have no need to think about your orders again once you give them.

corporations arent evil, the authority who lets them get away with ever doing anything that isnt for the greater good is. they have been given special priveleges in order to stimulate the economy, which im sure they do to some extent.

the problem is that stimulating the economy does not neccesarily mean instant greater goodness. everyone in the repugnicant party seems to either think so or lie about how they think so.

for instance, oil executives had to sit down in front of congress recently to explain how and why almost-record high gas prices coincide with record high gas company profits. the assumption that i hope was mentioned is that the purpose of allowing corporations the rights that they have is not to provide opportunities for them to make more profits but to create more american good, sometimes that means no price gauging.

repugnicant ted the shriveled slime snake stevens, however, quickly denounced the silly idea of making them take an oath to promise not to lie, saying that, unlike any other extremely important hearing (ie the National Crisis of Steroid Abuse That Everybody Totally Cares About) that idea is “OUT OF ORDER!!!”

turns out, contrary to what they “testified”, many, if not all, of them WERE at some super secret meeting with scumsacks like dick cheney. i wonder what that meeting was about and how they all forgot that they had gone.

when i asked them, they said it was about unicorns. and i can tell you now that i totally believed them. because im as smart/dishonest as the american government. is the govt retarded or dishonest? which would make you more embarassed? enraged? violently revolutionary?