Are deeply retarded people naturally Anarchists?

[The_Golden_Turd]

I’m reading The Panarion of Epiphanius of Salamis, and his description of the “barbarian sect” echoes a lot of the Anarcho-Primitivist theory of origin of man in his “natural state”, which is by no means a coincidence, Anarchism preserves late Roman and medieval Christian anthropological speculation mostly intact.

This author influenced St. Augustine, here is the section:

The First Book of the Panarion
Section 1
Part 1. Epiphanius On Barbarism
1:1 For at the beginning Adam was brought to life on the sixth day, after being formed from earth and infused with (God’s breath). He was not begun on the fifth day, as some think, and finished on the sixth; the idea of those who say this is a mistaken one. He was unspoiled and innocent of evil and had no other name, for he had no additional name of an opinion, a belief, or a distinctive way of life. He was simply called ‘Adam,’ which means ‘man.’
1:2 A wife like himself was formed for him out of himself—out of the same body, by the same infusion of breath. Adam had male and female children, and after 930 years of life he died.
1:3 The child of Adam was Seth, the son of Seth was Enosh, and his descendants were Cainan, Mahalaleel and Jared. And the tradition which I have learned says that wickedness first appeared in the world at this point.1 It had also appeared at the beginning through Adam’s disobedience, and then through Cain’s fratricide. But now, in the lifetime of Jared and afterward, came sorcery, witchcraft, licentiousness, adultery and injustice.
1:4 However there was no divergent opinion, no changed belief; there was one language, and one stock which had been planted on earth at that time.
1:5 This Jared had a son named Enoch, who ‘pleased God and was not; for god took him away’ and he 'did not see death.'2 Enoch was the father of Methuselah, Methuselah of Lamech, and Lamech of Noah
1:6 God’s righteous judgment brought a flood on the world and wiped all humanity out, and all other living things. But by his decree he preserved Noah in the ark, since he had pleased God and found favour—Noah himself; his three sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth; Noah’s own wife; and his three sons’ wives.
1:7 So eight human beings were preserved from the water of the flood in the ark of those days. And some of every kind of animal and living thing, cattle and everything else on earth, were preserved—pairs in some cases, sevens in others—to renew the existence of every kind of thing in the world.
1:8 And thus a tenth generation had passed making 2262 years.3 And the flood came to an end, and Noah and his household served as a surviving stock in the world.
1:9 But there was no difference of opinion yet, no people that was at all different, no name for a sect, and no idolatry either. Since everyone followed his own opinion, however, the name, ‘Barbarism,’ was given to the era then, during the ten generations. (For there was not one law. Everyone served as a law to himself and conformed to his own opinion. Hence the apostle’s usage, not only of ‘Barbarism’ but of the other terms as well; for he says, ‘In Christ Jesus there is neither Barbarian, Scythian, Hellene nor Jew.’)4

Now Joker is always talking about Nihilism and Anarchism as the original mindset of man, but there appears to be a small amount if theological divergence between Joker’s religion, and Epiphanius’. Epiphanius does not assert a Nihilism, merely a lack of knowledge of abstractions… this is prior to the era of the noble savage in Christian thought, but you see the basic concept is already forming. It took several generations for bad ideas to arise, for shit to hit the fan more or less in terms of methodological actionabilitt, such as spells or witchcraft.

There isn’t a insistence on anti-hierarchial thought here. Epiphanius neither asserts nor rejects it outside God, and doesn’t even put the blame on the devil. It was just men, took a while for new ideas to emerge that caused the system to begin to oscillate towards bad and good characters.

Now hypothetically, is a retarded person- I mean like, deeply retarded, a Anarchist Nihilist merely from “lacking complex ideas”. Many kinds of tards exist that if you say “Hey retard, don’t do that” they will stop. Is this evidence of their acceotance of Hierarchy and Statism? Do they have complex ideas like that, or are human minda not motivated by such abstract ideas when responding to commands naturally? What is nature natutally? Hmmm…

Or is Epiphanius closer, in merely noting people were closer to blank states, but still men, abd it took time for complex abstractions to build upon one another syllogistically, but were always motivated abd curious, capable of actions? Are ideas the very thing that seperates man from his primitive origins,and not hierarchy and nihilism? Is a Saint and a Crook, both filled with civilized ideas, equally distant from Adam in the natural state?

Adam can be taken as real or figuratively for our ancestors as far back as you care to imagine. Lots and lots of works like this out there, hits the whole gamut of Roman and medieval speculations on cultural and evolutionary anthropology, still quite heavily explored in modern philosophy. It appears Epiphanius would reject Joker’s claim to being closer to the original mindset of primitive man, because Anarchism and Nihilism are both twisted concepts that evolved out of a long intellectual lineage, are abstract, and are NOT the man himself.

If Anarchism and Nihilism seeks to assert that Joker is in that original state, then Epiphanius would seem to pop a hole in Joker’s balloon, showing how simply put, he clearly is not.

One obvious point of evidence is what happened in Jared’s lifetime, and Joker’s leaning preference or indifference to the Satanism of those acts. Earlier man in his more natural state wouldn’t worry about such thing, now would he? It isn’t a question of freedoms, but causality and priority of knowledge, which man originally lacked. He had “no ego or his own”, to invert a phrase from Stirner.

[Uccisore]

I would think a retarded person would be a far leftist because they are used to/expectant of the idea of everybody else taking care of them while they sort of bebop around through life. Anarchism seems to be more of a ‘autistic imagining himself a badass psychopath’ thing.