Are you a synth?

Are you a synth?

So in the game fallout 4, there is this notion that the main character [‘you’] is a synthetic being created by machines. The world can be seen as like a machine, where every whirlpool is a functional lathe and nature uses biology as the means of creation. The game is [purpose of existence]; to make the world like a Constable painting. so you will have predators to ensure no disability, old age or weakness et al exists in the main picture – so to speak. The world makes itself human and that is what we literally are i.e. the product of the world machine, of nature.

The form and situation we ‘acquire’ [!] at birth, is not the product of us ~ we didn’t do any of that. One can describe the entire story of mankind [for example], without mentioning physics, and the entire info set of a brain without saying what the person is [the observer].

My theory is that when the world machine [which generates its own image [the world as seen by a camera]] generated first life by chemical attractions, the act of one life-form entering into and having symbiosis with another, manifested an observer in metaposition. This is because the two creatures were equivalent as one had not consumed the other, so you would have a kind of schizophrenia. Then as with brain function in general, it has to be resolved into one, such for any sense to be made of information. Equally if we take that but from the perspective in the shape of the ‘electrics’, a single signal is required to transmit a full set of information. - like a needle to a record.

We didn’t exist before we were born then? that simple biological function placing an observer in superposition, makes no sense in context to human brain and the vast array of cells. The observer for something that complex has to be an observer which formerly had utility of human form – was alive in a previous incarnation. Or a near match to that. How could an observer without any ‘knowledge’ ever to learn something so complex as making utility of a human form, if it wasn’t a bit like learning to drive again?

Q. so what happen when populations rise?
A. observers formerly of the animal kingdom are given human form. Rinse and repeat through all evolution. We aren’t that different to other animals.

nature makes all attempts to sharpen awareness and utility of form. It is awareness which is the measure, and ‘like attracts like’ works by that. Thereafter ‘death’ is simply observers being sent into metaposition, then being reborn in the nearest matching form. Death to flies means nothing!

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Souls are eternal machines. In this reality, human bodies(another variation of a machine) house the souls which live to experience emotions. Without emotional context and passion, all thought lacks value and affect. :wink:

Being human is more than likely a repeated process in a cyclical cycle. Can soul’s evolve? Let’s leave the human machine behind, which is not eternal, and move onto what is infinite energy. Lower remote recognition would be the soul’s self-awareness which could grow in knowledge of itself. I just recently had that happen. I don’t enjoy being slow on the uptake.

Amor, I thought we still have missing links in evolution and as far as brain development, not much improvement in retention. Oh there’s also the scientific fudging going on too; the truth is too alarming.

Also genetics are a dead end. Nothing there is guaranteed to be a positive dominant trait. Value is not predictable. And dang, I can ramble! :confused:

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Sure, but I take it that evolution is the only plausible means, and is always the case everywhere else in nature. In my way of thinking the world/universe is continually renewing itself, so in short it is going to happen in steps.

It may be so that you can just create observers, either by having machines which build them organically [synths], or artificially [robots] and both [androids] actually. So I am tempted to think you just get new born souls, with each birth. However, nature usually takes the path of least resistance, so it will if it can make utility of something which contains the means to operate a vehicle. I sometimes wonder is such ne-new-borns to the world, are the ‘fools’ and what have you?

Can souls evolve? Sure, you would have no problem saying that one’s soul can learn, indeed that e.g. an artisan can be a master at some skill-set. So if we continue that over the hundreds of thousands of incarnations, then a continued skillbase ~ one which bridges the destruction in birth cycles, will rise into becoming human. I can’t imagine we have that many incarnations, so I think nature brings us into being [i.e. from the otherworld, our natural home] enough to keep the whole thing rolling.

Genetics change with respect to ability.

If nature is efficient it would only maintain, rather than create. Everything would be reprocessed over and over again. I’m not so convinced that what resides inside of humanity is part of nature. Souls are other with manimals as hosts. With memories erased, a soul gets put right back into action in another fetus, simple efficient recycling.

This is mostly psychobabble.

Gist of the thread is Hermaphroditus making consciousness appear. World machine and schizophrenia. Entities consuming each other making observers form. Brain has only one piece of information - itself.

What is psychobabble? Is this your synopsis of the game?

Its when a guy like Amorphos goes rambling on about things he is basically farting out of his mental ass.

That’s what you’ve been doing too.

Turd too, but he isn’t exactly farting, he’s just smelling. Fundamentally, though, there is no difference between farting and smelling. But turds have no ass, mental or physical, to fart from. They just fart on all sides.

Keep it on topic and polite, please.

Indeed! I have no problem with arguments to the problem, but this is just childish. Trixie added to foe list, I can’t be bothered with him anymore.

Amorphos added to the foe list, I can’t be bothered with her transphobic rudeness and half-baked theories anymore.