the word god to me does not imply something that people make up…
to me the word god is the reality of whatever is out there or in there…
we can see some things …but the important stuff we may never know…
so we all think we know and we don’t know…so we just argue like little kids over nothing…
to imply that you know the nature of the origins of the universe and life is silly talk…
I am not going to bow down to any superior authority…unless they have a sword over my head…
In other words, nobody knows more than you.
no phyllo…I am trying to make the point that we are all in the dark…you and me and ier and arc and ?
How do you know that?
How can you know?
I don’t know that…I believe it…I could be wrong…what do you think
Okay. You believe or disbelieve something that a person has said.
Why do you disbelieve? What makes you disbelieve it (or them)?
It doesn’t imply; it says so, right out loud. All words are made up by people: all the words together make up spoken and written language. It’s the most common medium of communication among humans (Less common, more specialized languages are pictographs, mathematics, flags and musical notation).
Most of the words in human languages refer to material objects, persons and places and their various actions, intended for practical use.
Beyond that, human language also describes emotions, ideas, plans and concepts. Many of the stories told by humans are fiction. The motives of the people who invent fictional characters and events vary from joyous entertainment, through instruction and persuasion to extreme brain-warping.
To which category do the many god words belong? All of them.
you are right…but that is only part of the story…atheist and theist believe something …they debate…they have no idea about ultimate reality…they might as well shut the fuck up…
So what do you know about it, turtleman?
not much…but it looks pretty mysterious…I don’t know about the origins…we don’t know really
How can he be right? 
He just said that god is a fiction and you said that god is real. Let me remind you:
He must be wrong according to your concept of god.
And we will - just as soon as they stop trying to force their screwed-up belief system on other people.
Take all the gods out of public education, foreign relations and legislation, and i’ll never argue with a theist again.
hum what do you know about the origin of the universe…and the origin of life on earth…
and it is not even worth arguing about a person god…we need to use our votes to shut down the irrational not our mouths…
we need to embrace science and get votes to support it…like now we changed the law about same-sex marriage
So … ‘they’ are atheists and theists.
Who is this ‘we’ that you keep referring to?
(Atheists and theists would seem to include everyone except babies, small children and the mentally ill. 
Agnostics tend to be grouped with atheists.)
Are you(‘we’) agnostic?
that’s a good question phyllo----what do you mean by agnostic…there are some things I know …its called science
Who are ‘we’?
What has science to do with it?
Hearsay - some of the speculation is interesting, all of it is untestable.
For that, there is quite a large body of convincing evidence. I don’t know much of it; I merely dabble.
Only in two cases: if people who might yet be led to enlightenment pose questions and if theists make misinformed public statements about science or atheists.
The second precedes the first. It’s not just a matter of casting one’s own vote; it’s also a matter of convincing the undecided.
Much argumentation, much controversy, much opposition, much persistence. These needful changes to a god-ridden political system don’t come easy or fast.
science has everything to do with it…
That’s not an answer.
If Jesus was the Son of God and he rose from the dead after 3 days…
How would science confirm or refute that?
The word “God” is invented by Man. The concept of what it represents is discovered by Man … then labelled.