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Which is the Revolution of the Impenitent?

  • 1. a fundamental change in political organization
  • 2. the overthrow or renunciation of one government or ruler and the substitution of another by the governed
  • 3. activity or movement designed to effect fundamental changes in the socioeconomic situation
  • 4.a fundamental change in the way of thinking about or visualizing something : a change of paradigm
  • 5.a changeover in use or preference especially in technology
  • 6.open, armed, and usually unsuccessful defiance of or resistance to an established government
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Which of these most closely represents the meaning of a realistic Revolution, as in the phrase:

[size=200]Viva la Revolution!!![/size]

Depends on the context, n’est-ce pas?

You gonna give us one, mon frère?

Well paisano, I actually did, in the title to the poll, and I await the arrival of the most wicked and cynical, for only he is truly without the abject denial of self, and remains forever impenitent in his defiance.

So you only care to hear the response of the Impmeister?

You bigot!!!

Set a context for the rest of us, ie, those who cannot situate ourselves within the mind of Imp. It’ll make the thread more eventful - for us non-Imps at least.

I chose Impenitent first, because a.) he uses the phrase most frequently, and b.) I wonder how many people here actually realise, with clarity, the cost of revolution and the cost of accepting the status quo and fearing revolution …

At least that’s where I was hoping I could push it.

the most wicked and cynical? [-X

a portion perhaps, but most? :wink:

nonetheless, the correct answer to the query is

  1. The wholesale erradication of the revolting (as in those who start the revolution) socialists/communists as they attempt their overthrow of capitalism only to meet the superior firepower of the mercenaries of big business…

-Imp

A few assinations -merc armies are dispatched - big business is nationalized, humanity throws off wage labor shackles and is finally capable of living a meaningful life.

I hope you enjoy working your menial 40 hour a week job while it lasts.

but bring it…

[size=200]VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!![/size]

-Imp

And when you finally put your weapon down, you will return to your 40 hour a week job that you hate, you will return to that boss who doesn’t respect you, that company that uses you. Perhaps you will wonder - what the fuck have I done - perhaps you will pick your weapon back up.

it is a shame that you hate your work so much that you must project your hatred on others who enjoy their work.

-Imp

It is a shame that you always ad hom. It’s a shame that you assume every person who wishes to enrich the plight of the wage laborer, is himself a wage laborer, when historically, the well versed communist has been well off.

Perhaps you wish to disarm the argument before you have to consider it? Oh well, you’ve proven to me how irrelevent you are in other threads, why should I be suprised here…

right. when you can’t defend your point, call me irrelevent…

classic…

and you accused me of ad hom…

-Imp

Imagine trying to win a game of chess, whilst having only 3 pons.

Can’t happen.

And horisontal collectivism can’t beat vertical capitalism, either.

It’s just one faction is more powerful than the other.

Imp.

Just because you don’t know the defintion of the logical fallacy doesn’t mean it didn’t occur. You reason that the reason I would say “have fun returning to a 40 hour a week job that you hate” is because I hate my job. It is a textbook ad hominem.

Your argument is something to the effect of “You claim people hate their jobs, but your wrong, your just bitter because you hate your job”. Honestly an ad hominem doesn’t get more textbook than that.

No you are irrelevent, in more way than one. You position is internally inconsistent as per another thread, and you consistently use ad hom.'s and don’t address the poster. Instead of addressing the poster you make some semi-witty remark that is irrelevent.

How other posters let you get away with this, or think that your one liners are somehow cynical rather than just conservative talking points is beyond me.

because you are the only person who believes that it occurs when in fact it does not.

-Imp

For all you know I haven’t worked a day in my life, hence it’s an ad hominem, textbook infact.

Whether my assumption that many people hate their job is wrong or not, does not change the fact that your statement was textbook ad hominem.

I didn’t say you personally attacked anyone(insofar as this forum seems to define it), although insofar as an ad hominem is a personal attack… You can’t personally attack someone, though, because you rarely address them in any meaningful way.

I’m not really attacking you, I think it’s fair to say that someone who has an internally inconsistent position, and consistently ad hom.'s/semi-witty irrelevent remark’s, is himself irrelevent.

Mastriani:

As Impenitent is, or at least pretends to be, a reactionary, “revolution of the impenitent” is an oxymoron.

Is it permitted to vote for the choice closest to what “revolution” actually means, with Impenitent assumed to be sulking and grousing on the sidelines?

No mate, I’m not the only person who believes it occurs.

and thank you for your personal attack and your demonstration of the specific and exact nature of the argumentum ad hominem for the students of philosophy.

-Imp

The only thing a revolution accomplishes is a change in the names of those in power. For all the ethereal proclamations of this principle or that, there is absolutely nothing happening in a revolution but a change of names. This has always been the pattern, and it always will be the pattern. Revolution is nothing but power.