# bad poem

**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/bad-poem/7400
**Category:** Creative Writing
**Created:** [November 4, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/bad-poem/7400 "2005-11-04T18:10:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 6
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### Author: ![Colinsign](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/cab0a1/32.png) [@Colinsign](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Colinsign)
#### Post date: [November 4, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/bad-poem/7400/1 "2005-11-04T18:10:49Z")

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it occurs to me that i have been too guarded!  
as if i first had to establish some credentials  
in order to be taken seriously…

if a man claims to be an Idiot- you will not be disappointed! (ambiguous)

the Art of appearance  
is clearer than  
the deceptions  
of the apparent…  
(does that make sense?)

What is poetry…? A needle and thread…

poetry is trying to  
happen right now  
between fingers  
mind and keyboard

can poetry actually  
be written on computers?  
I seriously doubt it.  
This is not a poem.

Vain artless diatribe.

The predominance of BAD poetry  
far out weighs good poetry  
poetry is itself the limp  
flower of the human spirit  
a kind of honest-femininity!  
a kind of soul jerking  
honesty monstering  
wound sharing  
neutral ground  
that nobody  
can stand together  
for too long

how much do you really  
want to know about a  
person?

in the final analysis  
we are all thin  
snippets of paper in  
a cheap book

fragmentary  
wandering  
mooncalfs  
of chance

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### Author: ![Atalanta](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@Atalanta](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Atalanta)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2005, 8:58pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/bad-poem/7400/2 "2005-11-05T20:58:17Z")

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> [@Colinsign](#):
>
> in the final analysis  
> we are all thin  
> snippets of paper in  
> a cheap book
> 
> fragmentary  
> wandering  
> mooncalfs  
> of chance

…paper dolls. Bad Poem may not be a poem (to you), but I like it. …at the moment, perhaps, I’m drawn to “Vain artless diatribe” (as you call it.) 😕

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### Author: ![The\_Underground\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/user_avatar/www.ilovephilosophy.com/the_underground_man/32/111_2.png) [@The\_Underground\_Man](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Underground_Man)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2005, 10:37pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/bad-poem/7400/3 "2005-11-06T22:37:33Z")

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I really like this piece. The absurdity of poetry, yes? I hear you, I understand – thank you. But its very ironic, anti-poetry that is. The contradictions, the absurdity…

And where but in poetry can man embrace the contradictions? Perhaps you are a fan of Whitman, who seems to have, more clearly than most, hammered that point (embracing the contradictions).

The irony will always be that anti-poetry is poetry, anti-art is art – the age of irony, indeed.

p.s.

This poem actually seems to me to be targeted at Bukowski – I know it probably isn’t, but I think you can see why I make the connection.

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### Author: ![Colinsign](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/cab0a1/32.png) [@Colinsign](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Colinsign)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2005, 12:08am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/bad-poem/7400/4 "2005-11-07T00:08:46Z")

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I read Bukowski quite a lot. (I hope I am not just a cheap imitation)

I have always written in a kind of anti-art-art manner…what more can a person say other than I am sincere in what I write…sincerely bad perhaps!

Glad you “got something” from the poem! Cheers.

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### Author: ![itsancho](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/50afbb/32.png) [@itsancho](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/itsancho)
#### Post date: [November 30, 2005, 8:27am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/bad-poem/7400/5 "2005-11-30T08:27:43Z")

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Poems for poetrys’ sake;  
Thought profound;  
If rhymes there;  
So what?  
Lakes for waters’ sake;  
If lotus blooms;  
Swans bathe;  
And fish swim;  
So what?  
Good or Bad;  
Songs that are;  
Tales of heart and soul;  
Are beautiful.

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### Author: ![Alexistentialism](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Alexistentialism](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Alexistentialism)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2005, 9:27pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/bad-poem/7400/6 "2005-12-02T21:27:08Z")

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you mean good poem, right?
