You are an honest white guy, you are not fooling yourself by saying that all races are good looking. I strongly agree with you, and I appreciate your clear conception which is rare to see in white kids these days. I also hold the same conception for beauty and I respect it more than my life, even if I am not white.
As for instinct in choosing mate, mostly people prefer choosing the sexiest than the smartest or the strongest. Actually in many ways being the sexiest is being the smartest. Only these days certain white women choose the ugliest and strongest. I hope you will understand whom I am referring to? Bad days these are…hah!
My favorite is anywhere on the Indo-European belt, anywhere from northern India to the far extents of Europe. Also I find Eurasians and some latinos, some Arabs and some Mongoloids good looking. But I have never had a desire to own beauty, I find a strong feeling for beauty but not in the sexual sense, more in the way as an aesthete. Am I wrong in being that way? Honestly I do not want to hurt anyone, but some races on this planet are really ugly. They may be good at other things but not in looks.
So you agree that there are ugly people, leave my perspective being ugly or not.
The way you replied…I have heared this a thousand time, does that mean there are so many “honest” people like you In the west?
Why do you think that all races should be called aesthetically pleasing? There must be other qualities in which a certain race excells, but no other race can match the aesthetic beauty of Caucasians. It is the quality specific of Caucasians, very similar to how Africans excell at athletics.
You brand my view ugly without even knowing me, why? I have honestly never tried to hurt anyone. But as they say, truth is sometimes unaccepted by people. Some people like to live in illusions. Or is that hypocratic? Why do white people lie, while the reality is that “equality” is just a political tool?
Ugly is a hurtful word. Ugly is a value laden word that does not mean the opposite of aesthetically pleasing.
I don’t, I just think its asinine to claim that there ugly races. And, I think its asinine to try to sort races by their aesthetic appeal.
I beg to differ, so does your poll.
Gross oversimplification? Are Africans a race? What about white Africans? What about Africans from the sub-continent? What about Africans that suck at athletics?
Race has got to be the most specious way to classify people. If you want some basis upon which to sort people, my god, use sex, at least then there’s actually a demonstrable difference between the groups.
I can brand your view ugly without even knowing you because I didn’t brand you ugly. I’m sure you’re lovely, but I find your view to be ugly.
Another modern age “all knowing” white liberal…you are so plentifull in the west. I know that you would argue unto death, but you wont ever try to see what is the perspective of a nonwhite like me, my message. I do not mean to say that caucasians are superior, I just want you to understand that atleast indentify those qualities of your race that are really there. There could be extremely ugly caucasians similar to how there could be Africans sucking at athletics. But the average of Africans is greater physical strength and the average of caucasians are good looks. If you dont believe me then read some scientific report on African physical strength and Caucasian beauty standards. Both are different things and there is no point in comparing or in discriminating in any way. And those who live in the extremity of this scale are nothing but hypocrats…hypocrat whites or hypocrat westerners, whatever applies. However have you ever tried to observe the self loathing of those apes bouncing around your women?
i believe that beauty is a clue to say the feeling of God in love, it doesnt meant to give beauty to one thing, the sky isnot beautiful in itself but to what he refers of God sentiment and wills, i understant renaissance feeling, he is prooving how nobody look really to other how every man will consider God of himself only when it comes to his true feelings and that what make the chaos of men thoughts, they know the truth somehow but they feel very confortable in not allowing it to their heart, God is all, he is not christian or muslim or jew He is all and everywhere is of Him, so you must be right, in many contests of beauty caucasians win, it must be what God say in what He made, i believe in justice of God, it start with the truth of One same will its feelings and thoughts to shine in all soul faces of men
i think that beauty trancends race, there are many Brazillian women who are more attractive than European, there are many Canadian woman who are more atractive than asian woman, and vice versa.
Its kind of like asking who paints the most beautiful paintings Italians or Africans(its a matter of personal taste)
you know what i think the arguing is of? the word race, look how you are sensitive to this word and analyse that truely, come on it is ok everyone here knows speak of what he knows that we are all human race, why are u still so personnal to it? the word race is very humulating it is limiting the infinity in a box maybe it is meant this way, so you will be forced to the truth, if i tell you you are inferior what would you do? are you going to hate show you desire to kill and have power? or would you rather say well it is a perspective of seeing i wonder what make you say that i wonder why God make you say that to me? am i racist with you? i am too selfish to God will? or better you can say, well thank you for reminding me my truth of being nothing but a desire of happiness in peace, thank you for pushing me to my real sense to be out of the ambition of power in world and how close i am to the truth beyound men
Have you ever read the “Kamasutra”; the book of beauty? I dont say that it must be an ideal for the standards of beauty, but it is interesting to see the standards of beauty in Kamasutra clearly being “Caucasoid”. It refers to a straight and elevated nose and a complexion like “white lotus” to be the ideal of feminine beauty, even if it was written in a non-white country thousands of years ago. I also live in India, here non-caucasian people are abundant but it is interesting to see how people try to look more caucasian. Even in places lile Brazil and the far east people tend to achieve more caucasian looks, like having a clear complexion and sharp features. I do not know any race that glorifies a flat nose or coal black complexion to be their ideal. If certain blacks do, it is their hidden inferiority complex, and it is clearly indicated in their self-loathing in trying to attract white women. Again I am not saying that “whites” are aesthetically superior, even amongst whites those who have a certain combination of skin complexion and facial features are beautiful. If certain Brazilians or Mongols too reach that average they are beautifull. Beauty has a measure that could not yet be expressed in words, but that could be feeled, and honestly judjed. I know that globalisation and liberalism is a modern truth, but my honest words are that I feel the caucasian race has the most occurance of beautifull combination of skin color and facial and physical measures. I could even give away my life for my respect for the aesthetic beauty of caucasians, that is being falsly denied these days.
giving your life tor that respect outside the respect of only God? what is God has to do with your kamasutra and caucasian stuff? beauty is to God and you said earlier that is not about sex why are you confusing this to it now? you are bad i dont like you anymore
i never read the kaumasutra but i may take a look at it sometime(it is certainly highly regarded)
but i still think that beauty is nothing more than personal preference, that said symmetry may be a contributing factor(disproportioned women are not as attractive as women who “line up” better)
who do you think is the most beautiful woman on the planet(i think anyone will be hard pressed to give a “correct” answer.
willem, i agree. also , you can’t define beauty without giving your personal (subjective) opinion on the matter. the conception of beauty is like morality, its whatever i think is best.
i see more the issue in not relating any concept to the one truth, yes your feelings of beauty are personnal and more real of what any standard reflection thing that may appear can say about, but be careful this means that beauty is a feeling much more than it means that you can objectively watch, this means that what is unseen is much more real than what you see, this means that the real unseen must give life to what you watch, so beauty personnal standard would not be the color of the skin or shapes of body and face, esthetical is not beautiful, it is a confort from fears maybe or to give pleasure of being, beauty is what you love, on this yes you could have personnal standard, if you see beauty in bodies it means you love the pleausre of flesh, if you see beauty in a tear it means you love the weak who ask for help, i like to see beauty in heros who never ask for help and succeed everything they want without a sound and loving everybreath around, where is the power of good, why such people never meant to be
Giving my life example was only my bad English perhaps. And that GOD stuff…duh…God is the picturisation of someones ideals I think! So beautifull people are God-like to me, that means very respectable. I may or may not respect them for their other qualities or vices however.
