Ok; present your argument and I will attempt to debate it with you. Why do you think life ‘sux’? Is it because of spelling and grammar rules? I assure you, these can be taught.
Seriously though, if nothing matters then life sucking doesn’t matter…If life sucking doesn’t matter and death doesn’t matter, and life is currently the default what possible reason could one have to want to change the status quo. Conclusion, shut up and just live your life.
awww… it’s people with this kind of sense of hummour part of the reason the world doesn’t suck so much…
but it still does.
I don’t really want to talk about the problem I have…but it’s quite serious, I think anyone would’ve killed themselves, I’ve thought about it, but I hang on to see if stuff changes…I mean, this is my only life after all,I have to be strong.
I agree with u, but it still hurts… I mean, I agree intellectualy, and that’s what keeps me hanging on…but I still have feelings… I mean, I’m 20 and Im supposed to have a whole life ahead to live, but maybe I won’t be able 2.
btw sorry 4 the spelling, but my mother language is spanish, I do the best I can.
btw, wish me luck, I need a miracle, seriously, without exagerating.
god, I had so much plans and now it has all fallen apart…
I don’t think I can forge any new plans atm, till I fix the mess I’m stuck in.
ps. Of anyine here likes metal, u should listen to the song Clayman by in flames…
I know this has nothing to do with philosophy but it’s…if you listen to it you’ll probably get to know me better…listen to cloud connected by the same band too…I don’t really know about the lyrics…I’m refering to the feel of both songs…
anyway, this has nothing to do, but I wanted to share this as part of this poll/thread about how my life is looking so grim atm.
hahah, ok yeah probably, but they give me strength so…
if u know of anything better do tell me.
I knew the lyrics but when I said ’ I don’t know about the lyrics’ I meant… I don’t post this cause of the lyrics of the song, but mostly I dunno…lol…
maybe it’s stupid teenage angst but I mean… it reflects how I feel… I don’t really feel like listening to optimistic stuff when I’m between the sword and the wall. (it’s a popular saying in spanish that I just translated so you may not know it, but I’m sure u get what it means.)
LOL, this is the guy I want to lead my suicide support call-in centre.
Absolutely flawless execution. Well done, W.C.
P.S. I wonder if the the author of the O.P. is aware that most forms of suicide are highly inefficient, and lead to great pain and suffering … because they most often only do severe damage, and don’t actually terminate the suicidal individual. Sepukku is most effective, no known cases of failure, and it is a clean death.
That’s like saying, “What is 2 + 2? No mathematics please.” (Of course, we know the answer is 5, because that’s what Ingsoc says it is.)
Your brain is chemically imbalanced and is not producing the inherent trait of survival of your genes, thus you see no point in continuing.
I could suggest that you could live life with the intention of making the world a better place, but that would come back to simply making the world safer for the sake of the survival of your own children.
I could simply suggest that suicide is cliche, it’s been done to death (ha!), and that there is the possibility that even if you do commit suicide, you might just as well come back to exist on Earth in another life. Thus, suicide is meaningless and you may as well live till the bitter end, doing as much as you can to improve on your own current existence.
But, what the problem probably is, in this case, is that you are a teenager going through the same phase that most people go through in human development, and you just haven’t found your niche in society. With no place, you feel like there’s nothing for you here.
I’ve never studied psychology, so for all I know I could be committing any number of errors in my own analysis.
LOL… yeah I know, that’s part of the reason I haven’t done i yet…
cause I’ve seriously considered it…
BUT, I don’t wanna die a slow painful poisoning death and be all puffy and purple lol,
I don’t wanna blow my head up with a gun and be an awful corpse,
I don’t wanna slit my wrists, fail and have awful scars… worst than the ones I have in my soul …but at least you can’t really c them at first sight, u only can after I tell u my story crying, if I ever do, otherwise, I look like a totally happy person.
I think the best choice is carbon poisoning… ‘‘lol’’
but, u know…I still feel like there’s a light at the end of the tunel, though I can’t see it…
I wish for someone very important to me ( not a crush, that’s silly) asks me for forgiveness… and no matter how bad the stuff those people ( just a couple) have done to me, I’d forgive them.
I wish I can show the people around me how strong I am and how many things I’ve overcome alone… not to be pittied… but just so they know…
specially the ones that are a real pain in the butt.
I want those people to know how nice I’ve been inspite of all, and I want them to feel ashamed of what they did.
so basically that’s why I stay alive, and also cause youth is limited and I want to enjoy it. (in a healthy way of course)
as for the chemically inbalanced thing… maybe, maybe not, what is a normal brain chemically like anyways?
and no, I don’t think I see no point in continuing, it’s quite the opposite, I wanna continue against the odds, but since I have to do some pretty risky stuff, I want to have suicide as an option…just in case…cause dignity is more important than survival, isn’t it? at least for me… and no, I’m not narcisistic at all, since I’ve swallowed my pride many times to save my life.
and I do wanna continue the life of my genes… but 4 what? so that my kids suffer too? I mean, I want to be a good parent, and I never had one like that so I don’t really know how to be one…
so no, I guess I don’t wanna continue the survival of my genes…I just wanna ‘‘fall in love’’ ( fool myself and think I’m falling in love, cause after what I’ve been through, the word love sounds like a bad joke to me…it’s pathetic…and y do I wanna ‘fall in love’? cause I think it’s an illusion needed for happiness.
as for the ‘making the world a better place’ thing, ‘I totally dig that’ lol…
I dunno, that phrase just came to mind… 4sure dogs! jk. ( sorry 4 all the slang, too much mtv, and my age is a factor too)
sooo…yes, I think contributing to the world is one of the best things you can do, if not THE best, so I will do it if theres anything good I can give to the next generations…it would be an honor…I think that’d make ANY life worth living.
I liked your joke about suicide… u are right, it has been done to death many times , lol…
and it’s even worse when it’s done to life…lol, dunno if this joke even makes sense haha.
I’m gonna live till the bitter end …lol, it’s the sanest choice I guess…
and no, I’m not a teenager, I’m 20… and really anyone, no matter their age would be devastated by what I feel bad about…
so no, I don’t think it’s a phase…
and as u can tell by my avatar and my signature…I try to be pretty optimistic in the face of adversity…and I hope I don’t lose that with time…
I also don’t want to lose my sensitivity…I don’t want to be like my parents.
Step back for a moment, if you will, and examine this problem of yours. Examine it and ask, ‘Why is this, a problem, and not an opportunity instead?’ If you’re careful enough, you may just come out on top. If not, then cheer up, the worst is yet to come.
These ‘important people around you’ don’t sound like they’re worth your time or thought, but thats for you to decide. If their opinion of you is so important, then tell them exactly whats on your mind, in all seriousness - no matter the outcome, at least then you can move on. [What are they going to do, kill you? ]
Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them so much - Always forgive your friends, nothing shows greater character.
Life has absolutely NO MEANING…but that does not mean you cannot give it meaning. There is no all powerful creator…and we were not put here for any certain reason but to end your life would be criminal. It would be wasting your only chance at life. Things can get better but not if you drown yourself in self-pitty. “there is a balance, negativity needs to exist, pain needs to persist. otherwise the moments of joy we experience would lose their relevance.”
A value judgment is a comparison.
In this case any value judgment concerning life is a comparison of what is with what we would prefer to be.
Life is a state of discomfort and suffering. It is an expression of a lack, mirroring the lack that produced it.
The unacceptability of this suffering is determined by each individual’s tolerance to suffering.
Those seeking ‘meaning’ are really asking for someone or something else to give purpose to their suffering.
Suffering and Life are the same thing.
You could say that suffering is the price of existence.
the big problem with the popular vote is that we are all the same in the spirit. Thus we have striking simularities in the brain sections made to react to the soul. Thus we have common needs and desires that give us defined goals
Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
and self-control. All fruits of the spirit.
…Witch preceeds, Right brain/left brain dominate mindsets. Then estrogine/testosterone changed brain sections. Then audio memory or visual memory or the type of memory that makes people lawyers.
…Witch gives us the spirit reflected through matter and perpetuated in a 3D enviorment as; what we do to get attention/ acceptance, motivation, kind and careing/respectful and stern, selfless and values others as much as themselves, understanding and attentive, willing to work it out till the end…
W.C. your answers are the best ever… can I talk to you in private? you might save my life.
and u know what? u r right, they aren’t worth my considerations, and if you knew the whole story, you’d tell me I should hate them with all my soul and make revenge my sole purpose in life.
but I’m a ‘nice guy’ and I have good feelings… something I should abandon if I want to get out of this alive.
you seriously have no idea what I’m going through…
picture a saudi arabian woman opressed by virtually everyone and she has noone to complain to and noone to trust.
picture that situation… mine is no less hard…I’ll tell u it if u give me your email. I’d be really thankful…I really need someone who thinks like you do to help me through this.
lol…