Biomorphic Fallacy

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Man believes, because He exists, because His life begins and will end, that so too must the Universe.

He Anthopomorphizes existence on behalf of Himself. This is a logical fallacy. The Universe is not Man, does not center around Man. It has no Center at all.

This logical fallacy is not only made on behalf of Man, but all Life. Life develops perception through a nervous system, and then Consciousness via the brain organ. Life presumes that its own Conscious perspective is “Necessary” to exist. This is false. Existence does not require Life. If all Life and perception ceased, then Existence would “continue on”. Existence would keep on Existing. Objectivity > Subjectivity, not the other way around.

Let’s put Abrahamism, Christianity, Judaism, Islam, all the major world religions to rest. They’re all wrong. They’re all false. They’re all lies.

Genesis is false. No Abrahamic God. “God is Dead”. Let’s put Him to rest, for the last time.

Time to give up your worldly religions…

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You were more elegant when you described how Judaic religion makes law objective rather than the subjectivity of morality.

What is it that twists people’s brains?

More comfortable, maybe, to belong to a cult?

Fucked if I’ll ever know.

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I know how painful it must be, to be torn away from the Jewish masters and religion you have served so loyally for 2000 years…

It’s time to move on.

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The universe is an old object, which had a start date and will have an end date.

Where did the universe come from? It came from the core of the larger object that it is a component of.

Consider Earth as a universe, just on a smaller scale. Earth is a component of our solar system, of which the Sun is the core of the solar system that all the components of the solar system orbit.

Earth came from the Sun because the Sun is getting less dense, meaning that our solar system is actually an expanding large object with the sun being the core of the object. It expands because objects from the core move outwards, or they come from the core.

On a larger scale, our universe is also an object like Earth is. The universe orbits a core like Earth orbits the Sun.

Since our universe obits a core, there are other universes that orbit that core, as there are other planets that orbit our sun.

All the orbiting universes and the core are called…ready for this? A MULTIVERSE.

So our universe came from the core of the multiverse.

It was “born” or had a start date, and it will have an end date, just like Earth was “born” and will die, just like people were born and will die…

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Incorrect.

The Universe is infinite, without beginning nor end. Your beliefs of Genesis come from your religion; it is your Biomorphic Fallacy.

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No it is not.

There is infinite space, which is infinite distance in every direction.
There are objects that reside in that infinite space.

A solar system is an object, it travels as a whole around the galactic center. It is a HUGE object, which of course has a lot of distance between its components.

We live IN the Earth, which is IN the solar system, which is IN the galaxy, which is IN the universe, which is IN the multiverse.

We don’t live outside the solar system, or the galaxy, or the universe, we live IN all of them at the same time. They are nested.

Our limits to observe the smallest component, and the largest component are just that…LIMITS to our capabilities.

We can not see the very small systems, and we can’t see the very large systems because of distance, small and large.

There is no reason to believe that the largest system is our universe when EVERY other system is part of a larger system.

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Yes it is.

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The Standard Model has a beginning & was recently confirmed again Dec 21 despite efforts to break it
bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang … -survives/

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No Big Bang

No Genesis

No Beginning

No End

No Teleology

Infinite

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You cannot apply the perspective of Life to Non-life, or vice-versa.

You cannot apply evolved Perception/Subjectivity/Consciousness to unevolved nervous systems.

You cannot apply the beginning of your life, and your death, to Existence and to the Universe.

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We can’t alone, no. But we’re not alone, and God is patient.

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I’m down with nested, but we are not in the earth. We are on the earth. We and this pale blue dot are from stardust. The Standard Model doesn’t say anything about a multiverse, but something similar happens with time (within the Unmoved Mover).

If you can be IN but not OF… whatever you’re IN is a mere construct… sand castle for the tides.

If you can be IN and OF… it is not a mere construct, but you are contingent.

Humbling? How ironic that love can both humble and elevate.

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I am my own master (and at least my memory goes back 2000 years. It goes back further).

You, however, are a despicable socialist and require a state to answer for you.

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origami …do you live off grid? how are you posting this?

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No, we are not “on earth” we live IN Earth.

Earth is more than just the dense portion that is water, dirt, and rock. Earth is the ATMOSPHERE too, which is less dense matter than water. Earth (and all bodies) are a general density order, which means the core is the most dense and as you get further from the core the density decreases. It’s like that with all formations such as the solar system, galaxy and multiverse, and apples and peaches too :slight_smile:. That density order is caused because mass evolves to space, meaning mass gets less dense over time. It’s not an accident that there is a density order, it is CAUSED by the way matter (mass) evolves, and that is to get less dense over time. It’s the reason why Earth (and all the planets in our solar system) came from the Sun. The solar system is getting less dense by way of the planets moving out from the Sun. That means the object the solar system is growing in size, and the matter is getting less dense because the same mass with a larger volume means less dense. Mass evolves to space!

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I would argue that the atmosphere is more space than it is earth. Unless you’re digging tunnels all day long every day or you can breathe underwater then you live on earth. Or in space.

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The Earth and the Sun are both congealed stardust from a previous star. Probably. I wasn’t there.

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Let’s stay on-topic, m’kay?

The problem with this notion of Irrationality, is that mankind cannot escape his Subjectivity easily. Most humans are not even aware of the difference of their subjective perception/consciousness versus what could possibly be “objective”. Take iambiguous as an example of this. So how can any Objectivity be translated to the subjective mind, to Man? I think the first attempt to make sense of Objectivity is to make sense of what you are Not. So the subjective-mind (Man) must begin thinking in Negatives. Not what “Is” about existence and himself, but what is Not himself nor existence. In other words, you have to “make sense” of foreign things/objects/subjects. Man compares himself with other life forms, other psychologies. In this, he begins to understand his own psychology/subjectivity, but not his own objectivity.

This is the point where rationale becomes irrational. You cannot “make sense of” a rock, a drop of water, a breeze of wind. Consciousness presumes itself where it does not belong, understanding what cannot be understood. Consciousness cannot “negate itself”. Once you have it, or gain it (Recognition), then you can’t get rid of it. You cannot erase what once was. This is what “Existence” is, a state of permanence “outside oneself”. It is theoretical in the sense that its possibility and recognition cannot become apprehended by the conscious-mind. Objectivity/Existence, or “objective existence”, is literally and physically “outside your conscious mind”. It is Unknown. It is a psychological limit, Epistemologically limited. Yet, it makes common sense to understand and know, that something that once was, cannot be destroyed, erased, or “removed from reality”.

You can forget the world. You can close your eyes to it. You can fall asleep, go unconscious. You can attempt to deny its existence. But nothing subjective impacts the objective. No amount of wishing or fantasy, ignorance, “erases the thing”. Existence (Physics/Body) is before Essence (Mind). Existence is the foundation of Essence, not the other way around.

This is the exact opposite mentality of all major world religions, and humanity in general. It is “opposite thinking”. So one looks Irrational to the other. Neither can make sense of the other, until this fallacy, this barrier is crossed. Abrahamism/Christianity/Judaism/Islam all need to presuppose, “predetermine” the Essence or Soul of things, of matter/physics/existence, so as to maintain their worldview/metaphysics/mysticism. This is what Atheists claim is the “God of the Gaps” fallacy, to continually posit the existence of a “smaller thing” (Monadology) “underneath” everything that can become known to man. So existence becomes Unproveable, along with Unknown.

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If something can possibly exist, then it must exist for all space and time, across the entire universe.

This is true because matter cannot be created nor destroyed, only transformed. Energy must be maintained/conserved (Newton). This is the core of what people call “Science” and Physics.

You can disagree, with Science, and presume the “Existence of God”, but that doesn’t mean you’re right. It only means you don’t understand what is being said.

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Consider the common man, who is proud of his Subjective-mind and proud of his Ignorance. He has no use for “Objectivity” and no interest in such, no interest in a world “without himself”. This is an attachment to Ego and to Life. Life is the center of its own Consciousness. This is the Biomorphic Fallacy. This is why the vast majority of Man, or mammals, or animals, or any consciously evolving biology, does not necessarily have an interest in its Environment before Itself, before its own Survival which takes precedence.

Its Environment (maximally as Existence/Universe) is always a foreign adversary.

This explains the motive of Mysticism and Abrahamism, making unknown elements of man’s environment into “demons and angels” (Demonology). The environment is foreign/apart/separated from one’s “self”. Self and Environment are at odds. This is a biological limit first, and later a psychological limit, as consciousness evolves. Consciousness never surpasses this limit. It can’t. It wants to, but it can’t. It represents a battle between what is alive versus non-life, Life and Death. This is interpreted by the subjective-mind as what is Knowable versus the Unknowable.

Abrahamics “cheated” this system by presupposing “God”, an ability for a subjective-mind to be/come an objective-mind, to fill the “entire universe”. This is how most Abrahamics define your God. It’s an (ir)rational shortcut. It’s a false definition. And it is a misunderstanding, of Physics/Nature/Body. Again, it is a presupposition of Essence before Existence.

Or that the entire universe revolves around You, your mind, subjectively, rather than the realistic alternative.

Ignorance is bliss. It is far easier for humans, and other mammals, to dwell in their Solipsism/Ignorance forever. So you go on thinking the universe revolves around you. And 7 billion other humans will believe the same thing, which means your belief is not “Unique” nor “individual” in the slightest, but rather your self-delusion is justified “because everybody else is doing it”. In this, Humanity, strokes its own ego. Remain Subjective.