Bit of Golden Rule logic

Playing with this: plato.stanford.edu/entries/square/

Harry J Gensler’s logical form: “Treat others only as you consent to being treated in the same situation. More precisely, don’t combine these two: (a) I do something to another, and (b) I am unwilling that this be done to me in the same situation.” (Introduction to Logic, ch11: A formalized ethical theory, Routledge, 2002). As you can see, Gensler’s formulation of the golden rule incorporates the silver rule as just another version. The platinum rule, treat the other as they would want to be treated, is the same as the golden rule, because you would want the other to treat you as you would want to be treated…see how it says the same thing?

What is about to happen below is not what happens in Gensler’s chapter.

Making it about the same situation is making it graded absolutism, so that you’re not talking about “sometimes” but only “always” or “never” (in the given situation, or “given context”).

In the square of opposition, replace “is” with “ought be”. None of this matters (it’s an empty/indefinite term) if there is no Good/God who turns “ought be” to “is”.

S: things self does to other in context
P: things other does to self in context
According to the Golden Rule, “all S ought be P”. “All S ought be P” and “no S ought be P” cannot both be true, though both can be false (contraries). If “all S ought be P,” it must also be true that “some S ought be P” (subalterns) and cannot also be true that “some S ought not be P” (contradictories). That last form is the one Gensler’s formulation avoids by incorporating the silver rule as another version of the Golden Rule.

This is normally formulated in the opposite way; asking how do we turn an “is” into an "ought, such as a knife would IS painful, therefore we OUGHT not to stab people.
The is to ought is a moral judgement.
How does in work in the other direction, except empty post hoc rationalisation, please?

I’m not sure why you think there ought to be symmetry here.

Just because there IS a logical method, does not mean it OUGHT to make sense.

Sorry, just saw this. To turn is into ought is the naturalistic fallacy, or fallacy of reification. The reverse is equally fallacious. OUGHT pain always be avoided? Symmetry is important to avoid double standards on truth.

Justified true belief requires both, separately. One cannot stand in for the other. Good reasons and evidence are nothing if they point to nothing. And even if you have a perfectly good God staring you in the face, how do you define perfectly good (without good reasons & evidence) in order to know it perfectly describes a perfectly good God?

You can’t justify the point into reality, and you can’t just say something is the point w/o giving good reasons & evidence that define how to recognize the REAL point if you did encounter it.

Also relevant.

A synthesis combines “yes” and discards “no”.

The original synthesis never had any “no” to discard, except that it holds a no/yes space to make our “yes” possible.
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relevant

Somebody please help me translate/conjugate the square of opposition into different logics. Don’t volunteer unless you understood that.

Hum, will you please help me? See last post^.

I asked very nicely. Not at all bossy. Still will have same results; take that to the bank.


P.S. @Carleas, I don’t like how link previews do quotes, here^ or in search.

Think with: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-do-paraconsistent-logicians-say-anything-follows-from-a-contradiction/80247/4?u=ichthus77

Also this^

The golden rule… isn’t that somewhat like, “well might I die in a WW3 nuclear blast but at least all those other fuckwads around me will also get incinerated?”

At least there’s that. Golden rule, to you as is done unto me.

OK so what would you suggest if everyone is dying in a global nuclear disaster?

I myself would prefer a new heaven and a new earth.

Others may prefer it just stay gone. They just lack imagination.

Sometimes you gotta be thrown off the diving board to find out that you actually like diving.

Sometimes you gotta break a leg (that was already broken and healing poorly) to fix it. To reset it.

The floor is yours. And it is lava.

Nothing of this sort will happen , need not worry at all :blush:
All the religions say that man has done enough sins that his thousands of forthcoming generations have to redeem those .

“I know that my Redeemer lives.”

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getting closer

sorry for repeat