Book of Eli--spoiler

(This subject could have been in entertainment, politics or here. I threw a dart.)

Mainstream Hollywood siding with Christianity so openly?!? That’s why I kept expecting something else right up until the end. I kept thinking there was going to be another explanation for his “revelations”. Never happened. I mean…Christianity…the supposed heart and soul of George Bush, Sara Palin, Dick Cheney conservatism. Que pasa? I’m just askin’. I got no clue (well, a way far out one but…)

Maybe they read something about Christ incarnations on Indian grounds, and the Bollywood sounds drove them crazy?

I considered that… :unamused:

I like it. Who is Mooji? Does he live in Kuala Lumpur?

Ben-Hur
The Ten Commandments
The Robe
Demetrius and the Gladiators
King of Kings
Barabbas

To name a few big ones of the classics from Hollywood that side with Christianity so openly.

You’ll note that’s all 50’s stuff. You might have cited The Passion of the Christ, but Mel Gibson pretty much exiled himself from the Hollywood liter/glitterati over that very film–that and his dumb drunken anti-Semitic tirade.

Time

What, saved by the bell?

I didn’t understand your post. How does it side with Christianity? Go ahead and spoil it.

All I have seen is that Denzel carries a package and is willing to hack several people with his machete to protect that package from destruction. I haven’t seen the film, but perhaps the package is the Book of Eli or a copy of the Bible. Maybe the thugs are looking to destroy all sacred scriptures, but this is highly dubious.
If it was, I would only be shocked of the unchristianity of the “christian” message. Not everything that shines is gold and Jesus himself speaks of goats and sheep and those who in the Last Day will say “Lord, Lord” and Jesus will respond: “I never knew you”. It may be siding with something, some psedo-christianity, but not necessarly Christianity.

The book is the last copy of the Bible, all the others having been burned (improbable in itself). But Denzel has received messages from God to take the book West (to Alcatraz as it turns out) with God providing divine protection along the way, where they’re coming up with a printing press so it will be republished.

And the thugs are just robbing thugs, except for one who wants the book so he can misuse it for evil (sort of like churches and politicians did before, I thought, but they didn’t say come right out and imply that.)

It isn’t pseudo-Christianity. Its point is to hold up the Christian Bible (it even has a cross on it) as the divinely protected Word of God (like He’s been protecting it all along???).

How does God protect Denzel’s character? Sounds like a movie I’ll watch. But I say “un-christian” because killing people to protect something that could benefit them in this world, in this life, sounds removed from the idea that this world will never be good because it is the devil’s realm.

Mostly just circumstance, but toward the end he’s shot point blank in the chest but continues the journey. But the main indication is that God tell’s him he will get there, and then as some unspecified point, he says God is protecting the girl as well. If God had come down and told everybody, ok. But it follows the same old revealed religion model that God told just me.

Even most Christians aren’t pacifists and believe in self-defense–not to mention the unprovoked conquest and genocide in the OT. And Jesus “cleansed” the temple, leading others in the effort I’m sure. In fact, that’s probably the most historic event with the highest degree of certainty in the NT along with the crucifixion, each validating the other–the one leading to the other.

Now many leftists are pacifists in fact if not in name (Anglo-Saxon Protestant white hetero-males excepted)–which I further believe, ironically follows from their Christian heritage.

No, I just meant time is all about timing…and it’s about that time for what you noted as “long ago” to be once again in what we see.

More specifically, people world wide are more and more uneasily sensing a collective sense of change or tragedy, doomsday prophecies are rampant and getting more so (and not more so than other points in man’s history, but more so than recent history).
The more sense of massive change or tragedy increases, the more fundamental basics of a group of people will be held on to for familiarity; something familiar and reliable.

In the West; that is Christianity.

There is certainly a large void here, people are philosophically rudderless, but Christianity just doesn’t offer the comfort it used to. How you gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they’ve seen Gotham. Yes, there is much evil there, but things can be explained reasonably as well. We can’t go back. The cat’s out of the bag. Pandora has opened the box. Adam and Eve have eaten the apple.

Why do you think Christianity is getting a facelift making it so compatible with physics and modern societal behavior comprehension?

Because we can’t go back.

I find it poignant that there is a trend rising of trying to revive some long dead older forms of “Christianity”, but that these revived forms are no where near what was likely held by these long dead sects; but instead revived inspirations derived from them and adapted into our new modern era.
People want a way to make it fit better for what they see and what they hold; dead sects can’t tell you that you are wrong, and you can feel authentic and like you are going back.

Why not?

You can find him with Google. mooji.org is his website I believe, though it may be blocked on certain locations… and I found that quote on:
issuu.com/psibase/docs/moojitribute

You got that right, but the disconnect is that there’s no way to make the supernatural “fit” with the total lack of it people see with open eyes–no matter how tightly they try to keep them closed. The only things that fit the facts and everyday observation are atheism, deism, and cop-out/drop-out materialism. Revealed religion is on the way out, even Islam, and it’s being replaced by revealed socialism and revealed animism (we can’t deny Nature, so hell, make it God, and all the priests have to do is just trade in their black robes for green ones). (Ooooo, good analogy, iIdssm.)

Because the anti-capitalist/Marxist commonly atheistic left and Christians are natural enemies. Obama didn’t used to go to church until it became necessary in order to follow Alinsky’s principle of doing whatever it takes.

BTW, does anybody think that Hollywood (or any Ghetto) is something like the brotherhoods Yogananda predicted in his Autobiography book?

I don’t get it. I thought you were surprised that a movie with unapologetic Christianity in it got made. I’m saying why shouldn’t it? Is that right, or did I misunderstand you originally?

And what does Obama have to do with it? I’m completely baffled.

I’m not saying it shouldn’t have been made, only surprised that the left would have made it, if that’s the case, and if so, for what purpose. There’ve been some (political) right wing movies, especially this decade, like Gladiator, V for Vendetta, Rambo and The Brave One, but the only real pro-religious movie was The Passion of the Christ, and that was from a religious loose canon with money and a name.

Obama was openly radical political left where religion dares not go. But to get accepted by the public…