bringing philosophy down to earth

From my vantage point [and that’s all it is], we should strive wherever possible to bring the language of philosophy down to earth. In other words, we can spend most our time using the tools of philosophy merely to sharpen the tools of philosophy or we can use them to sharpen our understanding of the world we actually live and interact in.

In my view, words used only to render and evaluate other words are not nearly as relevant to human interaction as words rendering and evaluating the relationship between the words we choose and the way in which they get translated into our actual behaviors with others.

At least in my opinion. Which I am not trying to suggest must be your opinion too.

Philosophy, as I see it, is not chess. If one thinks of pieces on a chess board as words, even a chess grandmaster is confronted with only a tiny fraction of the possible permutations that philosophers must juggle [continuously] in trying to engage the words of others “out in the world”.

In using the language of philosophy words must follow the rules of logic. Just as chess pieces are necessarily confined to the rules the game itself.

But chess has but a handful of pieces. And each piece is able to move in but a handful of directions. And the transactions always take place on the same [64 square] board. And even though the permutations are vast, it’s a mere ripple on a pond compared to the oceanic tsunami of variables philosophers must confront and negociate day after day after day when they try to fit the rules of language into our social, political and economic interactions. That, in fact, is why many philosophers of the “rationalist” or “analytic” sort prefer to focus instead on the rules themselves. Some even manage to convince themselves the reality of human interaction is such that, if thought about long enough and hard enough, can be reduced down to either rational or irrational behavior.

But what if it can’t?

In a nutshell, philosophy is not physics. Why? Because physicists broach and evaluate the words of other physicists by, sooner or later, making the words be about something—something that can be probed empirically, something that allows them to make and to test predictions, something that can be explored experimentally by colleagues, something that reaches conclusions able to be replicated over and again by peers.

On the other hand, when the language of philosophy becomes “about something” out in the world we live in, the predictions, the probes, the experiments, the conclusions etc. are often anything but nailed down.

Let’s take the case of morality. It’s purpose is not to predict, but to describe and offer a prescription.

It’s not really in competition with science, but the prescriptions it makes are about the world.

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In short, put things in layman terms? Philosophy should be for all, thus a low lix count should be sufficient to comprehend philosophy.

Check out GE Moore for bringing philosophy down to earth.

His assertion of ‘Here is one hand’ holds up a hand and then ‘here is another’ holds up other had an elegant rational to it missing in the 20’s, or whenever this was.

More or less what Moore was getting at is that for there to be common sense beliefs in the first place (I have a hand) there must be people who exist, in commonality, to hold these views. Hence when he says ‘There is an earth, and people are on it’ in his ‘On Defense of Common Sense’ he is making a profound statement.

One of the things with Wittgenstein absolutely gushed over was Moore’s Paradox: that one cannot seem to assert “It is raining but I do not believe it is raining” even though there seems to be no logical problem with it. I believe this connects up with a thought Quine had, but it has since escaped me.

Don’t we do this though, iambiguous? Isn’t everything philosophizing at the end of the day? Solving the daily errands?

You mean the standard of philosophy should be moderated to the level of “us” all?

Imo it takes lots more than doing daily trivial tasks to philosophize, and no it’s not great philosophy going to a bar and ordering a beer, even though it takes navigation to get there, knowledge to communicate with bar wench, and math to pay.

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Philosophy is just a hobby, like gardening. Only you deal with more crap in philosophy.

No, there are modern professional philosophers, just very few.

Though in ancient times it was the predecessor to science.

Why is that incompatible with what I said? There are also professional gardeners. But it’s also a hobby.

Now you contradict youself. It’s that “just” part which contradicts your previous and present postulation.

As much as you make out of it.

I was speaking generally, but you did catch me there.
Hmm.

Philosophers strive to sustain arguments had adhere to logical and epistemological rules. You can’t say just anything and call yourself a philosopher.

What I focus on is the relationship between words and worlds. How do me make the words we use fit into the world we live in? What can be encompassed logically and what cannot? What are the limitations of philosophical language in discussing human behavior?

As Bobby Fisher once rather succinctly demonstrated chess can be as much about human psychology as human intellect. You can be as skilled moving and manipulating the pieces off the board as the ones on the board.

And lots of games end in a draw.