Can I have a Hindu Swastika as my avatar picture?

It’s a religious symbol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HinduSwastika.svg.

Why use it as my avatar pic? Just as the Nietzschean Übermensch is not the Nazi Übermensch, the Hindu Swastika is not the Nazi Swastika; and I think there are strong parallels between Nietzscheanism and Hinduism, not in the least between their respective ideals for man and society. And: the Nietzschean Übermensch still is, or should be, controversial.

Mirror it

Nah, to me the unmirrored version suggests a clockwise movement, and I won’t settle for a counterclockwise one. It’s supposed to symbolise the eternal recurrence.

Carleas may not see this any time soon. I’ll bring it to Staff.

Can’t it be facing left and still lead into itself?

I wouldn’t care honestly either way, then again i’m not part of the Staff.

You’re asking?

Hey Sauwellious, have you ever heard of the philosopher Neitzsche?

I’ve heard of Nietzsche…

It actually represents the circular/votexical nature of existence. The Hindus also believed it represented a type of fan which blows the celestial down to earth; the reverse-the nazi one-is based in that esotericisn wherein they are cleaning the earth, sucking stuff back tithe heavens in a ‘reverse fan’ type thing.

No troll. I mean, obviously it diesn’t represent the theory it predates by thousands of years. Unless we want to talk about how Neitzche basically just lifted some stuff from Hinduism, and ER is just an abstract theory we can apply to vastly different sociological and geographical areas—ie it’s pseudo-science that says nothing and can be morphed into whatever.

I’m sorry, but this is nonsense. The Nazis did not mirror the swastika. Mirrored and unmirrored swastikas are older than history.

But Hinduism, too, has a theory of cosmic cycles, which it calls “years of Brahmâ”. Nietzsche called the eternal recurrence a “great year”.

At this point, go ahead, Saully. If Carleas objects, i’m sure he’ll let you know.

Thank you, Faust. I’m hoping to have my signature feature a disclaimer before Carleas see the picture.

Can I have this as an avatar?

Hitler cats you know it makes sense. :smiley:

No disclaimer is necessary they will soon be in your bases, subjugating your rodents.

Your swastika disclaimer link doesn’t work btw.

Yeah, right, which is the problem I anticipated. Now, everyone will want a nazi avatar, until we start to attract real Nazis. Then, the non-Nazis will stop posting, the Nazis will take over and the anti-Nazis will set up defamatory websites about us, and this grand experiment will be over forever.

All because of Sauwelios.

But don’t feel bad, Saully.

:laughing: good point.

Yea the nazis have nothing to do with swasticas. They never used that symbol.

Yeah… unfortunately Nietsche didn’t take Eternal Occurance from vedic literature anymore than he took it from a rock, he lifted it from Tertullian’s ‘The Resurrection of the Dead’ as his explanation as to how god can be prophetic and know everything- because it already happened and continues to happen, in a eternal occurrence. You have to be saved from it to escape it. This has become over time the position of many monotheistic Hare Krishnas now.

He’s using it on purpose, because he knows people will take great offense to it, and knows everyone else knows the link to Nietzsche and the Nazis. He’s just searching out for sensationalism on his own terms, with a few catchline phrases like ‘Nietzsche loved the jews’ and ‘Nietzsche hated anti-Semitics’ trying to make others look like idiots for getting upset about a very blantant and brazen neo-nazis on the forum posting about breeding new races. ‘Oh, I mean philosophy’ is bullshit, the greatest bullshit that ever lived. He means race. It’s blatantly obvious. Even Cezar said so in the past, and he is more of a Nietzschean.

IMO, such an avatar falls within the limits of protected speech. I don’t suppose that any swastika is the most effective way to represent anything other than the bigotry most readily associated with it, but even assuming for the sake of argument that you’re adopting the symbol in bad faith, either because you do identify with its most salient meaning, or just to ‘toe the line’ of propriety, I still don’t think I would have the legitimate authority to tell you not to.

I appreciate your caution, and I’m sure the disclaimer will save you some time.