Under the standards and ideals of christianity, man has free will. It is this free will, which seperates us from the animals, yet also acredited to us the plague of original sin.
Well, fast forward. Jesus was sent down to relieve man of this burden through his innocent crucifixtion.
Well, what if man during this period, utilizing his free will, murdered jesus as you would any other human.
What happens then? Would he have the capacity. Would jesus have defended himself physically had the opportunity arrived?
I think he would be able and would have stopped it and said, “It is not my hour” or something like that and complete his task the way it was carried out.
That means, in order to undo one “bad”, another “bad” must be created, and set up as compensation. God does not repay defect with repair. God punishes defect. Old age and sickness were punishments from God, adding error to error, adding defect to defect, adding death to death. This was the concept, biblically. “Vengence is mine” Said “God”. And none were allowed to take vengence away from “God”, unless “He” said so. Therein lies the prospect for both a genecidal holy-war, and also, therein lies the prospect for peaceful passivism. In one case, we have the Christs words: “Love your enemies.” And in the other case, we have history of Jewish wars, massive killings of the spiritaul sort, etc.
In the case of Christs death, it was meant to be a gift. His death was meant to make all sins forgivable, other than the few unforgivable sins. Therein, revenge and retribution were seen as the highest and holiest forms of compensation, set so high that only God had right to these conceptualizations.
This twisted thinking is actually yet another example of doublethink, as it allows room for both love and hate, both revenge and forgiveness. Lo, and behold, it was both revenge and forgiveness, all at the same time. In the same way as God supposedly both gives and takes back life. The circular counteraction undoes its own goal, and yet, each polarity has room for much trapping. The circular reason is a snare. It traps men, and thus comes their own down-going.
The hells terrorize.
The immortality makes the mortality dark.
The mortality destroys the future.
The heaven destracts.
And the hope lies in a backworld.
As usual, it is nonsense.
One sin was sent down in order to make up for another sin.
An innocent man dies for a crime long ago, instead of the criminal also dieing?
Moreover, would it not be more proficient if God, the creator of all, decided to uncreate death, and uncreate sin, or is death and sin his own uncreation also?
The point of Jesus’s death was to change circumstances as people evolved. He unlocked the gates of hell. The ideology war between heaven and hell was also evolving to allow satan more power and at the same time give Christians the power of the Holy Spirit. Satan is just one who has to find out for himself that God is right.
Plus when Jesus died his blood dripped unto the hidding place of the ark of the covenant. Thus creating a physical act of God that transended time physically past and future.
i fail to see the relevance of this argument. But, i have a question for you. Is this diagram you so eagerly posted meant to be taken literrally? If not, why even bother posting/creating this diagram. And why would god put faith in something as unpredictable as human free will? Haden’t it fail him as well as us once before?
See, dying isn’t dying; it’s ascending to heaven. There is no such thing as dying; it’s just a passport to the next areas of existence, such as heaven or hell.
Wouldn’t the soul behave more like the blood, when the body dies? Wouldn’t it descend? Doesn’t the blood pour down back into the earth and the sea? It returds to its source, in elemental form.
This could be called an ascendance to heaven, as energy becomes one with its ultimate source. But… I just don’t see it as a succession… I see it as a recession. Those souls die too… They melt back.
The story of Jesus brought the Christ archetype into human consciousness. This was the actual gift from God ie. an awareness of the Christ archetype.
The Christ archetype is outside of space and time. Archetypes by definition are abstract and therefore escape physical events. The story of Jesus includes his physical death as a man.
The story then goes on to claim that Jesus was resurrected. And herein is the religious complication. He came to life again and therefore escaped death and so cannot be killed. In the same way you cannot kill an archetype.
The key to understanding the significance of the Jesus story is in understanding how the story is presented and behaves. The story describes the Christ archetype and it is the story that should be measured in terms of survival ie. can you kill the story?
The strength of the story is that it appears unique. At least in the presentation of the story. The presentation has been enabled and some would argue made possible through text (the written word) which itself is an abstract tool and therefore escapes entropy. As long as the story is reinforced in the media, it becomes relevant to those who engage the media.
If you understand the Jesus story in these terms it becomes an interesting media event and can be bracketed and rebracketed until it has a marginal impact on contemporary life. In this sense it’s not so important whether Jesus can be killed but whether his story can remain relevant.
