Trump‘s opening salvo was to flood the zone with shit. If his pardoning of the violent January 6, insurrectionists didn’t persuade you, you are impervious of the evidence. Trump rewards violence on his behalf. The Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers are now free to act as Trump’s private brown shirt paramilitary troops again.
Trump is also using the fascist fear tactic of threatening federal workers of firing if they don’t rat on each other. It’s proven effective in totalitarian regimes.
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Gib. I think there is an oxymoron here:
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it makes me think that indeed they have switched gears–from acting on their own principles to acting on the audience’s principles (acting either way, but still).
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Very interesting comment, and it reminds me of a similar term Turn, used in a different context, and applied dynamically as a result of a change from a singular, atoritorian view to that which are putatively extended to a wider social one, that is, as if the social principles were responsible for the switch. It’s probably a well positioned tactic by which audiences can be made to feel that they are sensing something in sync with others in some hidden principle they once knew, but remains hidden to them because they probably forgot them.(the principles)
Easy. Switch and bait or bait and switch. The difference is imperceptible .
Most probably that switch is well intentioned and prior to it’s gnostic counterpart
So Trumpism may end up having more beneficial features then otherwise.
Sculptor wrote:
- Probably not, since this is likely to cause increases in poverty, literacy and crime . Ask me if you do not understand why. Might look good in the short term but with Musk in control (if he bothers to show up for work) he’s not likely to be rational.
← I’ll definitely have to ask you to explain how leaning out the government leads to poverty, [il]literacy, and crime, and also how on Earth you figure Musk is irrational. →- He might try. But Americans and the rest of the world are not going to like concentration camps and the massive costs and fear caused by rounding them up. Also the American tax payer is not going to like the billions haded over to private prison businesses to do the work. The other thing is that these people are the lifesblood of the economy and were the US to suddenly start losing millions of workers the shit is going to hit the fan.
← The life blood of the economy??? Dude, the illegal immigrants working honest American jobs make up (what?) maybe 5% of the entire workforce? You ever given blood, Sculptor? →- Funny. Is that a stated claim?? ← Yes, it actually is. → What are all the lawyers going to do without their COKE. You might want to take a step back and ask who controls the Mexican Government - yes!! In the same way that Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos control Trump, and the US government, the Cartels control the Mexican.
← The cartel may control the Mexican government, but that doesn’t make them the government, at least not in the eyes of other governments and world leaders. And why wouldn’t the Mexican government want the cartel out, thereby allowing them to take control again? And if Claudia feels too comfortable snuggling up to a mob boss to stand her ground against the cartel, maybe she should be taken out. →- Isreal conflict sorted by Biden. As for Ukraine I doubt Trump has any influence except to cut off aid to Ukraine which will force them to do Putin’s bidding. As Putin helped Trump into office twice this is probably going to happen with the losss of Eastern Ukraine to Russian rule.
← I expect it to go the other way around; Trump cutting off aid (or somehow hurting) Putin. And you do realize the war between Israel and Iran is still going on, right? →- LOL Get a grip. Please understand that Tariffs are a TAX on American industry by placing a charge on all that US industry imports. All these costs are going to be pushed on the the American consumer. THIS IS INFLATIONARY. by definition. I am horrified that so many Americans are ignorant of this most basic fact.
I don’t think you know what the definition of inflationary is. But I’m aware of what you’re saying. The point is to encourage American companies to get their imports from elsewhere or produce domestically. And with enough revenue from tariffs, the government will be able to afford major tax cuts for the American people. How much of which offsets which remains to be seen.
Sculptor wrote:
“DEEP STATE” is part of your paranoia.
It’s not paranoia at all. It’s a well known fact. The deep state started with the creation of the CIA after WWII. It was the first department of government to be exempt from transparency, and it has abused that exemption immensely ever since (the Patriot Act being a prime example). It has grown to monstrous proportions and needs to go.
Sculptor wrote:
When is Trump going to release his tax returns??
Idunno. It’s the least interesting thing that’s ever passed through my mind.
felix dakat wrote:
Trump‘s opening salvo was to flood the zone with shit. If his pardoning of the violent January 6, insurrectionists didn’t persuade you, you are impervious of the evidence.
But this is the crux of the problem, felix. What most people call “evidence”, really isn’t evidence at all, especially by my standards. This has been a central theme throughout this thread, and I urge you to read the whole thing and note what I’ve said about it. One man’s evidence is another man’s lie. Whatever you’ve been told, I’m sure it seems true to you. But I’ve been told other things. I’ve been told that 1) the vast majority of attendees to the Jan 6 protest didn’t partake in violence and didn’t even enter the capital, 2) the vast majority of those who entered the capital were invited in by the police, 3) the remaining attendees who did commit violence and actually did break and enter are a small minority. And I heard Trump say, as he signed the executive order to free the Jan 6 prisoners, that he (or his team) will be looking into the cases of the violent offenders more closely. In fact, he claimed the investigation will be done on a case-by-case basis. ← That’s my evidence. It points to Trump being very reasonable and rational, and not granting a blanket pardon to everyone who was present at the capital on Jan 6. And frankly, for the crime of breaking into the capital (if you want to phrase it that way), 4 years of prison is enough.
But the real question is, “who’s evidence is right?” Are either of our evidence right? Do either of our evidence even count as evidence? To be honest, I think it was a profound mistake when society started treating as evidence what somebody wrote. Evidence used to mean you’ve seen it for yourself. Now it means, a journalist wrote about it. Or a youtuber reported it. Or somebody I trust told me. I much prefer the original grass roots definition of “I’ve seen it for myself”.
So in a sense, you’re right. I am impervious to evidence. If you call CNN “evidence”. By my standards, I have 0 evidence. Either way. I’ve seen none of this for myself.
felix dakat wrote:
Trump is also using the fascist fear tactic of threatening federal workers of firing if they don’t rat on each other. It’s proven effective in totalitarian regimes.
Are you talking about the come-back-to-work mandate? Do you have evidence for this claim? If it’s true, I think you’re making the Hitler moustache fallacy, which goes like this: “So and so has a moustache. You know who else had a moustache? Hitler! Therefore, so and so is evil!” (Will Ferrell makes a great parody of this fallacy in The Campaign–great movie!!!) Just swap out moustache for firing government workers for not ratting on their friends: “Trump is going to fire any government worker who doesn’t rat on their coworkers. You know who else forced people to rat on their neighbors? Stalin! Therefore, Trump is just as bad as Stalin.” You may find his policy here distasteful, and maybe it’s a bit draconian, but it’s not proof that Trump belongs in the same category as Hitler or Stalin or Saddam Hussein, etc. As a matter of fact, some corporations put their employees through ethics training in which one of the rules is that if you see one of your coworkers breaking the rules, you have an obligation to report them. I personally wouldn’t want to work for such a corporation but it happens. I would also argue that as a government worker, you have to know that the stakes are extremely high in your line of work. So expect the job to be tough. Expect to have extremely high expectations laid upon you. It’s a world of difference between that and pressuring ordinary citizen to rat on each other for breaking the law, which is what happened in the Soviet Union.
Ichthus77 wrote:
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I did. I found this:
Felix!
I just watched Ben Shapiro comment on Bishop Budde (here), and WOW did he have a different take on it than you (or me)! Accord to Ben, Bishop Budde “hijacked a national prayer service to throw a bunch of politics in there.” This was in response to her claim that she was trying to be respectful. Now, I’ve been scouring the internet for what horrible things Budde must have done to deserve such a scathing rebuke from Ben, thinking felix probably isn’t telling me everything, and found nothing. Pretty much all reports–left and right–confirm what you said, and where there is dirt on her, it only comes from the far right news reports basically quoting Trump. So either she was saying it in a really vicious, mean, insulting tone right in Donald Trump’s face, or the right wing media is totally distorting the facts. (Surprise! Surprise!) This is where an actual video of Bishop Budde delivering her plea would be nice.
This is even something I’ve thought about myself on a few occasions. I do believe that Trump is not out to harm gays or transpeople and has no intention to do so, but I know that gays and transpeople are being told he does, and so I would expect that at least some of them take that to heart and fully believe in. A 4 year Trump presidency probably scares the shit out of them. And I’ve always thought that if I could give Trump just one piece of advice should he win, it would this: reassure those who are scared of you that you will do them no harm. And well, we’ll see whether he carries through with it or not. I’d give him time. His immediate reaction, however, was a disappointing one.
Trumpism is part natural reaction to the extreme woke left we have been suffering through for the last 10+ years, but it is also a predictable and orchestrated dialectic and psyop meant to rope the right-wing people into accepting the coming global NWO technocracy. It’s no coincidence Trump is all in for crypto, blockchain, AI, quantum computing and biodigital surveillance.
In essence it is a very basic architectural conundrum, a tit for tat, this for that translation which conforms to the basic anatomical tri angled, reconstruction of the mind - to its ultimate objective development; as much a reproduced comfort zone for the elucidation of defensive tactics played out , against the threat of decomposition into the ghostly apparitions hidden from sight.
Mostly converted into political minerals to prevent alienation that could destroy the very essence of an objective progression.
Eternal processing is obvious in the omnipresence of all synchronous regeneration as we walk through an apparent timely fashion, each and every one , all ages proceeding on their own, yet seeing eternity in one beloved others’ eye, for an timeless instant.
That’s sweet and naive. It presupposes that he is inciting fear unintentionally. It has gotten him where he is today. Why would he switch now? According to Machiavelli it is often better for a ruler to be feared than loved, as fear is a more reliable way to ensure obedience and maintain power, especially when it is not possible to be both loved and feared. Have you seen the Godfather trilogy? Trump’s idea of government is like that of a mafia Don. The Tech billionaires have bowed and kissed the ring. He’s on a roll until somebody stops him. The Supreme Court can rule against him, but they don’t have an army. He does until somebody takes it away from him. Who will that be? Anybody? He’s already talking about serving a third presidential term. He will never leave office willingly.
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…but it’s ok when the barmy left are doing all that? …the sexualisation of children, the ott support of LGBTQ+ and trans operations etc… don’t you realise that they were taking the piss out of the West and their historical achievements, and turning them into a farce, so by design.
Iow, the West was deliberately being played for/taken for fools… of course the underdogs were always going to support that, which is why it worked so well.
Yup. That’s the one. Not that I “have” it anywhere except in my memory bank. Which is weird to think about. But anyway.
Biden and Harris represented the Center/Left. You haven’t seen the Far Left in power here. Trump is pushing the boundaries of the constitution in multiple areas. Show me where Biden did that anywhere. To give just one example of the difference : Trump was the first US president in history to resist peaceful transfer of power after losing an election whereas Biden restored the institution of peaceful transfer.
felix dakat wrote:
That’s sweet and naive. ← No more naive than Bishop Budde. → It presupposes that he is inciting fear unintentionally. ← Right, because he had the genius idea of telling left wing media to spread rumors to their viewers that he’s Hitler and will persecute gays and transpeople. → It has gotten him where he is today. Why would he switch now? ← Because he wants to be great. → According to Machiavelli it is often better for a ruler to be feared than loved, as fear is a more reliable way to ensure obedience and maintain power, especially when it is not possible to be both loved and feared. ← So are you supporting fear based tactics or no? → Have you seen the Godfather trilogy? ← Yes → Trump’s idea of government is like that of a mafia Don. ← Proof? → The Tech billionaires have bowed and kissed the ring. He’s on a roll until somebody stops him. The Supreme Court can rule against him ← on what? → , but they don’t have an army. He does until somebody takes it away from him. Who will that be? Anybody? ← Let the impeachments begin! → He’s already talking about serving a third presidential term. ← Proof? → He will never leave office willingly.
I don’t think it’s likely that Trump will have mercy on anyone or reassure them that he means them no harm, but that wouldn’t stop me from offering him the advice above. It didn’t stop Bishop Budde. But I have a conception of Trump as wanting to be the greatest president America has ever had (not just the most powerful), and at least my vision of a great American president is one who shows compassion when appropriate and an iron fist when it’s not, and is loved by as many Americans as possible. Maybe that’s not Trump’s vision, but I think he is aiming for greatness by some definition.
Right now, I think he just haaates the left for all the things they tried to do to him (lawfair, assassination attempts, defamation, etc.) so he’s got no patience for them, but I still don’t think half the nation hating him and visa-versa fits his conception of what makes for a great American president.
felix dakat wrote:
Biden and Harris represented the Center/Left. You haven’t seen the Far Left in power here. Trump is pushing the boundaries of the constitution in multiple areas. Show me where Biden did that anywhere. ← How bout, oh I don’t know, failing to protect the boarder and American citizens from foreign threats? → To give just one example of the difference : Trump was the first US president in history to resist peaceful transfer of power after losing an election whereas Biden restored the institution of peaceful transfer.
How is that pushing the boundaries of the constitution? First of all, there is no law in the constitution that says the transfer of power must be peaceful. That’s just the intended effect of the constitution. If the transfer isn’t peaceful, it just means the constitution isn’t perfect. Second, Trump had every right, under the constitution, to pursue an investigation into voter fraud and at least attempt to take the case to court–all legally supported by the constitution–because in the case where there is voter fraud, especially enough to make a difference to the election results, it absolutely should be investigated and prosecuted. In other words, it all hinges on whether Trump was right or not.
What a vile fascist man Trump is… 
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…removing violent/homicidal criminals and dangerous drug cartels from the streets…
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…RFK cleaning up the food chain, implementing an honest unbiased gold standard, and reversing the chronic disease epidemic to give US citizens their good health back…
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…in comparison to these crocodile tears…
Now, an insider has told DailyMail.com why Gomez, who is engaged to Benny Blanco, swiftly deleted the post and is vowing to ‘stay out of politics’.
‘She realizes that she cannot go up against a Republican backed nation - many of whom are loyal customers of her Rare Beauty brand,’ they said. 'She does not wish to alienate.
‘She is going to stay out of politics and in her own lane after that drama.’
Selena Gomez deleted her tearful video about Donald Trump’s mass deportation of undocumented immigrants because she was worried it showed ‘weakness’ - and feared it could ‘alienate’ Republican fans of her beauty brand,’ a source has claimed.
The singer and actress, 32, sobbed as the spoke about Trump’s immigration policyin an emotional clip shared to her Instagram Stories on Monday morning.
Predictably, the video sparked a fierce backlash from Republicans and MAGA supporters, including US Senate candidate Sam Parker who called for the Bad Liar singer to be deported in the wake of her meltdown.
This reminds me of blacklisting Communists (McCarthyism) & whatnot. Despicable.
Ew. Fricken.
Trump never takes responsibility for anything. He’s blaming the plane/helicopter crash on DEI, which is code for minorities. This is just racist innuendo.
Imagine crying about deporting violent criminals.
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Sorry, but lives lost from ANY incompetence is preventable… so avoidable… so a case for a tribunal.
Imagine you or your friends or family being on one of those planes?
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And the idiotically-uninformed post you liked above is a misnomer, as the largest percentage of blacklisting being done for the last few decades has been by the Left… the film entertainment Arts and crafts industries etc., all [globally] Right-biased.
Everybody knows that but you two…
It makes you wonder, who is Felix really, to be that much invested in that level of TDS.
We two and at least the over 75 million Americans who voted against Trump in the 2025 election. That doesn’t mean that I was not critical of the Biden administration. As a case in point, if Biden had stuck by his campaign promise to be a one term president, the Dems could have run a competitive race primary giving voters the opportunity to choose their candidate. Such candidate might have won. We’ll never know. But, what’s clear is that by trying to run again, Biden contributed significantly to Trump’s win.
I mean, many people have been programmed with TDS and brainwashed to love violent criminals who are here illegally in the country. It is just the way it is, liberal media and all that. People do not think outside of the screens that program them.
