Can we know anything about the external world?

how you know this is bizarroworld:

Everything is a representation of reality (a non illusion) NOT a misrepresentation of reality (an illusion).

You represent a broken record. Not the Guinness kind… believe it or not.

You have to keep repeating truth so its sinks in Ichthus…Your binary processing biological machine exists and claims that it doesn’t exist because it doesn’t possess life.

“You need to exist to claim that you don’t exist” has replaced the ridiculous claim “I think,therefore I am”

To me representation of reality and non-illusion are very different categories. A representation is something that explains, is a symbol for, stands for something else. Are you a representation of reality? What’s that feel like and how is that different from you simply being real?

Everything is a representation of reality (a non illusion) rather than a misrepresentation of reality (an illusion).

It seems there is no one who sees this representation. So, how is it a representation? or every thing is a representation of what? What do these things represent?

Maybe we can know something about the external world, but we can’t know that we know. Does it make any sense?

No, for example the universe is neither of those

How do you know that limitation applies to me and others? Aren’t I part of the external world to you? Aren’t you now claiming to know things about what is external to you?

There’s probably a less ambiguous way to word this. On first read it sounds like retrocausation. Since claiming not to exist must happen this leads to our existence. Whereas I assume (perhaps incorrectly) you mean that it is necessary for us to exist to be able to claim we don’t. If we don’t exist we can’t claim that.

Of course you need to exist to claim that you don’t exist. Hence my statement…

“You need to exist to claim that you don’t exist”

Of course the individual hears,sees and feels a representation of reality in the form of sounds,visions and sensations which are created from binary data derived from vibrating matter.

Is the individual a representation of reality?

Is the vibrating matter a representation of reality?

are the sensations, sounds and visions representations of reality and are they separate from the individual or part of the individual?

There are 2 ways to interpret that sentence:

Logical Precondition: This interpretation treats existence as a claim of fact that is a prerequisite for action. To perform any act—including making a claim—the subject must already possess the status of “existing.” Here, “need” refers to a logical necessity; the act is impossible without the prior condition of being.
Constitutive Retrocausation (ontological): This interpretation suggests that the act of claiming is what retroactively establishes the subject. In this sense, “need” refers to a functional requirement for manifestation. The person does not exist until the claim is made, at which point the claim reaches back in time to “anchor” the existence required to have made it in the first place.

and as I said I assume it is the first but 1) it’s ambiguous and 2) far odder ideas have been defended here than retro-causation. I wasn’t arguing against the first meaning, I was pointing out that it could be more clearly formulated.

But i Kant… i just… Kant…

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Kant is neither giving an agnostic answer, nor does he say that we can only know the external world through reason and logic. He’s certain that we can’t know anything about it. He’s certain that we can’t even know whether there is an external world.

I didn’t want to believe first either that his philosophy was actually this crazy, but apparently it’s true. (Well unless he didn’t believe his own CPR. I don’t think he really believed it.)

We know that all external matter emits varying frequency electromagnetic binary energy waves which our binary processing biological machine body picks up via its antenna senses.We know that our binary processing biological machine body then converts these energy waves into sounds,visions and sensations which our metaphysical SELF interprets.

So we know a bunch of stuff about external reality. And here you say external matter. You don’t say external representations of matter. It seems like you are talking about something that is not a representation. Also who is this ‘we’? You also refer to ‘our’ binary processing biological machine. So this machine is something we have. What are we? Our metaphysical SELF - capital letters, no less. Is this SELF a representation? If yes, what is it a representation of? If no, then some of reality is not a representation. In any case it seems like your answer to the question of can we know anything about the outside world is yes.

We all have a biological machine body which picks up and converts varying frequency electromagnetic binary energy waves,emitted from vibrating matter, into sounds,visions and sensations that our metaphysical SELF interprets greenfuse….This is a scientific fact.The metaphysical SELF is separate from binary data and the sounds,visions and sensations created from it.