Can you be dead

[Meno4]

Here is an actual film of the experiment:

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That Russian Sleep Experiment | video with SOUND [ENTITY 2012]

[Ichthus77 (Ichthus77 (formerly She™))]

The first video says it is legend. The second video is fiction. If you want real life, you have to watch the Fight Club. Jk.

[Meno4]

Yes Ishtus, but the more disturbing question is why did it become a global phenomenon, and since it did, what engendered it toward a lasting phenomenal story, sustained its present doubtful state of uncertainty?

It may have been intentionally planted as a hypothetical test of how a universal effect could be created by positing a faux experiment.

There may be something to that…

[Ichthus77 (Ichthus77 (formerly She™))]

It takes energy to discern, to focus attention, draw/prune connections, so forth. If you don’t have/aren’t limitless energy, you need sleep to refresh. If you can never refresh, then the automatic systems that take over when you’re asleep will take over when you’re awake.

There is something about these automatic systems that is not completely separated from consciousness, which is why when we wake up, we sometimes remember dreaming… and also why we can be lucid while we dream. And also why we can resist falling asleep.

There is such a thing as over-resisting, just as there is such a thing as putting too much stress on the body when you’re ceaselessly working out.

There is something to rest… biological/physical rest for those who are not limitless energy. And there is also something to staying alert, watchful, ready. Images.

Appropriately responsive… nonresponsive… afk…

[MagsJ (..a chic geek, de Grande-dame!)]

@Meno4

This IS true, but then time(as doubly edged- esensed time and measured time) would indicate a progression of equanimity between them, so that as certain limits are reached, between the narrowing of difference between sensed and experienced time,

added to the fade out of memory, makes archaic temporal differences impercievable, as the 500 years ago origin of Buddhism’s source and the 5000 year temporal origin of helping skills in ancient history, can not be recognized as more time passed, as seconds of difference can be measured by the most accurate time measuring device.

Time stretches relatively as has been observed, so we should be able to put such differences pretty much to rest, or very near to that.

Even as we experience that through that regard, adds another slice of unreality of how total cessation of consciousness re; life, could be defined absolutely .

I came across this video today [coincidence ]

This Scientist Proved We’re Already DEAD.. Evidence is Everywhere! (no bs)

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The nihilistic approach to the situation? …though I doubt it will help the op, any.
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I ain’t buying it, but… then again, I ain’t no nihilist.

[Meno4]

lol, but nihil is only half of the picture, the other : affirmation. ( to me mind)

[MagsJ (..a chic geek, de Grande-dame!)]

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Affirmation of what… the Schrödinger’s cat paradox, of either being both alive and dead, both at the same time?
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What is the only substantiated way to ascertain/discern a life-form being alive or dead?

Respiration. ; )

[Meno4]

More like animals which can play dead to an incredibly perfected method, learned along since it’s long evolving trail, becoming a genetically built in reflex

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Opossum Playing Dead

[MagsJ (..a chic geek, de Grande-dame!)]

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@Meno4

More like animals which can play dead to an incredibly perfected method, learned along since it’s long evolving trail, becoming a genetically built in reflex

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Touché

…yes, and other animals also feign death too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparent_death

…but they are still respiring, so definitely not dead.

[Meno4]

Sure, true, but what if they are playing dead , so they can attack the unawares, who think they are REALLY dead? What if that technique underlies the true motive of their behavior?
What is such feigning belies that motive , justified by a split from responsibility, by a conviction that they were hypnotized by an exterior source?
And what if that is really what happened, or at least for the most part.

But even if that is merely some smaller part in play?

And what if , given all that , that game has been interjected into their nervous system from the very get go?

Or even if it hasn’t, what if that minute , almost absurd distinction, may not play a significant role in this game?

Or is it even a game?

Too many if’s too much uncertainty, and the ‘kids’ need to grow up real soon, or, it’s later then they think.

[MagsJ (..a chic geek, de Grande-dame!)]

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Forgive me… but I’m easily bored these days.

[MagsJ (..a chic geek, de Grande-dame!)]

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Ask the Ford Keeper, then get back to me.