Can you reason it?

Sir, I have adoubt in understanding Christianity and Judaism .please give your views to the question.
Statement:

  1. According to Christianity and judaism Adam(only man on earth) and Eve(only female on earth) are the first of human race from whom we all descended.

  2. Christianity and Judaism both condemn incest as sin against religion.

zooming in:

Thought #1: Suppose Adam had a son and daughter. In order to get further down the
human population chain - who did adam and eve’s next generation mate with ?

Thought # 2: If Adam and Eve just had a son - who was the mother of adam and eve’s
grandchild?

Thought # 3: If Adam and Eve just had a daughter - who was the son in law for their daughter ?

I think this is contradictory in holy Bible because it forbades incests while it also condemn Darwin’s theory of evolution. :sunglasses:

Wow, I think you just proved the Bible wrong!

Actually no, for if you read the Adam and Eve account you’ll notice they only had 3 sons: Cain, Abel and Seth. Yet Cain somehow finds himself a wife, suggesting there are other people around… (The account of which simply isn’t relevant to the Biblical narrative, which is why nothing is said.)

But if you persist in trying to prove the Bible wrong from this kind of an argument, I don’t think you’ll get very far. Or if you try to show that the Biblical account of human generation doesn’t fit with the archeological evidence, you won’t get very far. I don’t think the Bible is trying to make a scientific/historic point.

But even so, I’m curious why you say the Bible “condemns Darwin”… It seems to me the Bible predates Darwin by two or three or even four millenia, so it would be kind of hard for it to condemn his theory, no? Even so, I’m not sure what the discrepancy would be…

The bible proved itself wrong long ago.

I am going to do this despite my better judgment…

Historically speaking Adam and Eve were not the First people. There was also Ash, Lilith, and several others which were taken out of biblical texts when the bible became a singular document rather then several spread beliefs.

This being the case, it is completely possible for cane to have children with Lilith, Or even Eve’s daughters to mate with Ash and so on and so forth.

However this is not my point. Most do not understand or realize that Adam is not a singular entity. And neether is Eve, lilith or any of the others. They are in fact representitives of several races of individuals which were created. If you Notice the bible even in it’s flawed form clearly states Bird’s, Animal’s, Man, and Woman. Which in all cases can be taken as ploral rather then singular.

When God created Adam he was creating a race of people. Just as when God created Eve he was creating a Race of females. Everything in the bible speaks on many metaphysical levels and most of it is done in plorals meaning more then 1. Especially in Genisis. And even when God talks about himself in original texts he uses the words “God’s and Us, We” as the term for decribing his race of beings Much like I do in many of my post’s.

Only later on does he start using the singular “I”.

So did the race of Cain kill the whole race of Abel?

Interesting screenplay. Simply identifying the characters according to their order of appearance makes a profound statement about something.

Seriously though…

The queen

Devi Cocktit, the wild front tierer, laboriously orated and dictated Amen (and it was…so-so)

Pauly Shore

This topic is definitely cunterdickery

Cane… was not a race. God did not create Cane. Cane was the son of Adam, a nation more or less (nations are the sons and daughters of races), and Able was another nation which Cane went to war with and destroyed.

It’s Cain. Go look up your own religion.

My own religion? I do not have a religion. Nor am I an Atheist. If you read many of my posts or my other account "the Watcher"s posts, you would know what an ignorant statement that was for you to make. Especially about ME specifically.

This ignorance is what I discuss in many of my post’s however and I thank you for displaying such as evidence of proof of it.

I count your opinion of how god created a race of people as a religion. You have religious beliefs, and clearly christianity has had some impact on them.

I don’t care enough about you or your opinion to go look at your other posts, nor do I care what you think your mentality is.

Ignorance is displayed by many things, including going on the offensive after misspelling a word about which you have a large opinion, pluralizing the word ‘posts’ with an apostrophe, having overall bad grammar, and accusing others of ignorance in the face of all this.

The willfull choice to not educate oneself is a sign of ignorance. You assume I am religious, which I am not. You assume Christianity has some play in what I believe, again you would be wrong as it does not.

You in fact have no clue as to what I believe, and make an asumption simply because I state a historically relevant piece of information on a thread. Which by the way can be found in the Smithsonian museum… If your interested is fact, rather then baseless assumptions…

As a matter of fact all you stated is nothing but assumptions of nothing which has any real meaning or value and is 100% false concerning me. Your unwillingness to educate yourself about me specifically before you post such outlandish and foolish / False garbage about what your “assumptions” of what I believe is only shows you “are” in fact ignorant of a great, many things.

And the ability to spell, does not denote intelligence. it is the ability to reason and to understand, which denotes intelligence. You can be a grammar Nazi all you like, Your still light years below me on the intelligence scale. As is clearly shown by your post’s.

I did not say you think you are religious, I said that I count your opinion, based on things you said, as a religion. Again, I know you think you know a lot about yourself, but you’re wrong.

Show me the historicity of Adam and Eve.

Maybe you meant to say ,“Historically speaking, in the texts from which the Bible came, Adam and Eve were not the First people.” There’s a difference.

Show me that the writers of the Pentateuch intended to write in allegory when they wrote of Adam and Eve. Anything else is belief in conjecture: religion.

I am not seeing your problem with what I stated there. Historically speaking from any history text book found in any library in the world Adam and Eve are not considered the first people… I made an assumption that the individuals reading this forum were intelligent enough to comprehend such without assistance… Was I wrong?

So what is your issue with that statement?

And if you new anything about religion in general you would know that Adam and Eve are not solely related to “The Bible” but also appear in amny other monotheistic religions as well which have nothing to do with Christianity.

Who are you to asume you know anything at all about me and what I know of myself?? You who wont even bother to read up on me? that’s funny.

You go on to explain the other people who existed at the time of Adam and Eve. That’s the problem with your statement.

You’re still assuming that you knew what was meant by Adam and Eve if not actual people. It doesn’t matter that their story is not unique to christianity.

I’m not assuming. I do know more about you than you yourself know. And why would I bother to read up on a worm like yourself?

I’m going to bed.

No I simply stated “reasoning” for why and what it could mean as the original OP infered the posters should do.

Who said I’m assuming anything? Reasoning something out, and Assumeing something are 2 far different things. You… seem to do a lot of assuming… and very little reasoning.

Isn’t that an assumption? You have not the first clue about who I am or what I am, yet you state you do, Fully 100% of everything you have stated about me has been completely erronious and false up to this point. I would say that right there proves you know very little about me if anything at all… otherwise your comments would have been correct about me rather then the incorrect assumptions you listed.

However, I would like you to tell me all about me, since you know so much and I know so little, prove to me your knowledge of myself is greater then Mine. You can refuse if you like. But that only tells everyone reading this your words are as ashes and just and ignorant and meaningless. So now is your chance to prove yourself correct. will you take it? or will you name yourself a troll?

You still have no idea what I mean. I know nothing about the ‘you’ you consider to be ‘you’, although I can infer a lot from your babble. I don’t know where you live, where you went to school, or even if you’re a boy, girl, or hermaphrodite. I don’t care to know these things about you. I know the important stuff about you already.

Keep talking if you want to stroke your ego (I do know you consider that to have high importance, though you may deny it ex post facto), I’ll let you have the last post. I’m done talking with you in this thread.

I didn’t say tell me where I live or anything such as that, I simply ask you for that which you stated you knew. Which you have yet to tell me.

Basically I told you to tell me what you DID know. Not what you DIDN’T. And you told me nothing except excuses for why you couldn’t tell me what you stated you knew (I know you better then you know yourself is what you said, and you stated it as fact), so I can infer that you know nothing since you replied with nothing. I can also infer from this that you are an arrogant bully with an ego the size of the planet who lacks the cognitive capacity to back up what he says with logical and viable evidence.

In return you gave me a line of back stepping bullshit which tells me and everyone here you know nothing and are full of shit. “shrugs”. If I say I know “you” I am going to tell you what I know to prove it (Or what I think I know). You can infer anything you like from what I write. But you still refuse to state such even as that. Which tells me you know nothing at all or else you would not hesitate to state what you “do” know.

That’s called circular Logic.

You are nothing but a troll.

Locked: Done.

You are both wrong in your approaches toward each other.