Cartoons of Prophet Muhammad

If the Prophet Muhammad should not be depicted or cannot be depicted, why not dismiss the entire depiction as ‘null and void’? O, if only everyone thought like me!

The pics published in the Danish press are pretty disrespectful, but in a secular society, is this not to be tolerated? The reaction from ‘outraged Mulsims’ has clearly demonstrated that there is a ‘hostility’ that can be easily provoked.

The rise of any ‘fundamentalism’ is similar marked by also the ‘reactionary’ on both sides…it serves for people like me, not to react as though all hell had broken loose.

Salam!

Q: What do you get when a self-righteous-chattering-class-asshole meets a true follower of Islam…?

A: An explosion.

‘a self-righteous-chattering-class-asshole…’ who is this?

A: what do you get if you cross a self-righteous-chattering-ismalist with a true follower of toleration?

Q: A dodgy satirical cartoon.

The reason that you can’t make an image of him is because it could be turned into an idol.

Islamic groups have been caricaturing Jews and Americans for a very long time. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. Hypocrits.

Hilarious cartoons colin (sp). I wonder if you will receive death threats like I just received.

Yes, insensitive, but legal and not reason to become violent.

LOL, how immature.

Islamic group posts anti-Jew cartoons

Protest cartoons posted by Belgian-Dutch group show Anne Frank in bed with Hitler
Associated Press

A Belgian-Dutch Islamic political organization posted anti-Jewish cartoons on its website in response to the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad that appeared in Danish papers last year and offended many Muslims.

The cartoons were posted on the Arab European League’s site on Saturday. It was not working Sunday morning because of exceeded bandwidth.

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The site carried a disclaimer saying the images were being shown as part of an exercise in free speech rather than to endorse their content - just as European newspapers have reprinted the Danish cartoons.

One of the AEL cartoons displayed an image of famed Dutch Holocaust victim Anne Frank in bed with Adolf Hitler, and another questioned whether the Holocaust actually occurred.

Surely, if we want to apply our civic standards onto Mulsims, the muslims should ‘tolerate intolerance’.

Civility can endure many insults…but not violence…

As I said elsewhere they should be subject to their own morality.

i.e. they should obey their Islmaic Morality…

Even in a society filled with different ‘moralities’? Surely living in a Democracy means by and large you must respect those democratic values as well?

Well, if you believe in a god the man’s laws are nonsense. So, they believe that they can do anything that it says in one of their books.

I mentioned before that I bet muslims think that the whole world belongs to them because they are yet another chosen people. So, Holland or where ever is really more theirs than the original people living there.

You’ll probably find that 9outof10 Muslims do not believe they are actually more entitled o live in Holland than the Dutch. I’m sure they’ll concede when they check their passport, but I see your point.

Hum, one of the few replys I received from an Islamic theologian claims Muslims are subject to God’s laws and do not have to abide by man’s laws. Note, he did not claim the country’s laws, but man’s laws.

Wow, I hate to admit it, but I actually just shit my pants.

well, i’ll concede, i was beginning to get a little blinkered by my own passions and leanings…you do actually always make a strong contribution with your writing…i partly have no patience with meticulously organising my thoughts - which is a large part of philosophy.

I tend to write my philosophical thinking much better creatively, which perhaps makes it slightly harder to decipher…but not any less sincere…

Muslims will follow the morality of Islam…but the tactics used by extremists and the vitriol spat by ‘radicals’ - though many muslims my empathise - does not mean they are obeying a 'morality of hate per se…I still hold that a vast majority of muslims (perhaps westener muslims) truly strive for a life in the middle road…but i understaning living in a culture that does not obey such a code must be tempting, confusing and hard, but not impossible.

I think that we have think about whether or not the “radicals” are viewed as radicals by muslims. I think that they may be viewed as “Robin Hoods” by regular people. Robin is a character that does the right thing in a way that most wouldn’t have the courage to do.

So, I wonder if we’re being delusional by calling them radicals.

see whats hilarious about this is that a lot of those caricatures are depicting muslims as violent extremists and in response to these cartoons they “protested” around the world and violently attacked people.

[size=200]isnt that funny???[/size]

no offense to islam or anything but certain muslims seriously need to lighten the fuck up.

thats a report of the “protests”.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10705393/

robin hood was a radical and always would have been considered a radical. most peopel dont have the courage to do those types of things because they are radical things. you need courage to do idiotic things like strap a bomb to yourself and kill kids. courage aka blind stupid rage.

No, a character like Robin might have been radical in his actions, but they are the actions that we would all hope to have the courage for. However, when popular opinion refers to “radicals” or “extremists” what they mean is a small group that no one agrees with.

I love to recycle…how did you know?

If I were in a Muslim or Islamic country, I would respect their particular culture and beliefs. If I were to be arrested for showing my hair and prancing around in booty shorts, I would accept the consequences of my actions. I would know that if I lit up a fat joint in public and flashed my boobs to strangers that I would be in serious trouble. Their country,their culture,their rules.

The point is, Denmark is not an Islamic or Muslim country. I’ve seen the cartoons, and they are offensive (they are not particularly funny or well-drawn,either). However, the right to free speech in the western world includes the right to be offensive (and unfunny). The fact that Muslims have claimed that they would not portray Jesus in such a fashion matters not, what is important is that they have the right to do so if they choose.

Freedom of the press is not to be translated as “freedom to write whatever you want so long as you don’t insult anyone”…this freedom is as sacrosanct to western beliefs as not showing images of Allah or Mohamed is to Islamic beliefs.

If Muslim people wish to protest,boycott,write their own articles on the cartoons,etc…they have the freedom to do so in a democratic western society. It is when this extends to threats or acts of violence that the line is crossed. This is what I mean when I say that “the right to throw my fist ends at the tip your nose”. My rights end when they impune upon your rights and vice-versa. These rights are particular to culture and should be respected as such.

I also applaud Google in censoring their search engine for the Chinese market. China, not the west or Google, decides what is right for China.

In grade 9, I drew flack when I protested the removal of a White Supremicist flyer from a public bulletin board. The only conditions for removal of something from this board was if the announcement contained sexual content or made blatently racist remarks. The flyer contained neither of these, and hence should have been allowed to stay. The tweenage morons ( and most of the equally ignorant teachers) in my school (some of whom thought it was funny to call me “kke" and, strange as it may seem in these modern collagen-enhanced times, "nggerlips”) could not understand why. The only person who fully supported me was my Jewish math teacher. He understood what I did, that supporting the right to free speech does not mean that I have to agree with what is being said.

It is easy to support freedom of speech when you agree with it, and this can hardly be counted as support at all. If I want the right to publish an article on Feminism, it would be hypocritical of me try to limit the right of another to publish an anti-Feminist article.

Freedom of expression is what we in the west have chosen for ourselves, and this is what we are responsible for protecting.

Shouldn’t everyone be more worried about Hamas coming into power?

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 669934.stm :

[i]Hamas leaders say they want a cessation of violence with Israel, but have ruled out recognising the legitimacy of the Jewish state.

“We shall never recognise the right of any power to rob us of our land and deny us our national rights,” Mr Meshaal wrote in an article published in the UK on Monday.

“We shall never recognise the legitimacy of a Zionist state created on our soil.” [/i]

I feel deeply sorry for all the muslims out there who have half the brains to ignore cartoons like this and respect peoples right to freedom of speech.
The cartoons were stupid and offensive, but there is no need for a worldwide uproar about one mans excersising of freedom of speech. Muslims get too much bad media, but is there any wonder why? Why is it that other religions can co-exist within society without having to cause mayhem, but Islam cannot?
We cannot be expected to limit our speech because of something we dont even believe in. This is like forcing a religion upon us. Imagine if I was forced not to use the word god in a blasphemous manner? It is ridiculous.