The dualistic notions of morality declaring good and evil , right or wrong is a archaic deterioration of a hysterical past era.
A more provocative and interesting way of seeing the world would be cause or effect by that of Newton.
For every cause there is a reaction. In action there is no morality but instead there lies the relative action of success or failure.
I usually live my life in accordance to cause and effect in that I try to live a life of necessity as opposed to non-necessity.
Joker,
Look, I want you to really explain yourself for once. If you really live your life ‘by necessity,’ can you explain the ‘necessity’ of your metaphysical position?
…of course not. Because there’s nothing necessary about the way you think. Nothing, anyway, which could be explained without involving the same sorts of dualisms which you decry! Why is it ‘necessary’ that your ideas be ‘right’ instead of ‘wrong,’ or ‘good’ instead of ‘bad’?
If these terms are meaningless – which I’m not saying they aren’t – but if they are meaningless, why fight against them as though they were meaningful?
This is just as bad as the atheists who end up becoming anti-theists – it’s still positionally the same religious argument, and requires the same sort of mystical obscurity to defend itself in its warm, safe position of being right! But this is precisely the opposite of the free-flowing creativity you seem to be for…
…and it seems lately you’d rather slip into a vegetative nihilism, where everything is growing old and dying, and there’s no meaning anywhere! So tell me: what is it that you really desire?
Would you rather radical freedom and liberation… or to be chained to the ‘old ways’ by being unable to forget the punishment they’ve caused?
After all, man, actual thought must begin by forgetting what it thinks it knows. This, perhaps, is what is most ‘necessary’!!!
You have such a connection with your body—such a control, such bond-ship, that you assume that it is you—you are your body.
But do you yourself truly experience the work it takes to simply keep it working? You say it’s your liver, but have you actually experienced the non-stop-labor of performing its function?
One’s body is just like every other material thing. It exists; it acts according to a program being given a certain stimulus; its builds, it runs out of resources (and/or the inability to obtain or use them), it dies.
But then there is the program itself. How is that made? There is a physical, genetic way—DNA, and there is adaptability, which can range from associating situations as negative (causing them to avoid dangerous things that they would otherwise be interested in) to using abstract reason to desire how to act. Humans, unlike other animals, can actually decide how they want to program their body, and program their own reactions to certain stimuli. Humans, having eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil—able to act actually describe a situation as a literal (stemming from a completely abstract memory of what a word means, rather than simply a grunt that brings with it a direct, material situation (from a wolf that barks in silence at danger, indicating the danger to others in the pack—who do not think “What does that bark mean?”, for example).
You are this process of programming, and your “self” consciousness is merely an illusion of it. The only “self” there is the subjective experience of each particular moment. To recall a memory as happening to “them” is a nice starting point to begin the ills of humanity.
All you are is the self-conscious program that decides what to do with the material. It manipulates it (“God” said “We have made him in our image”), creating a certain reality in the process.
This is the undeniable. So what do you do with this? Let it anger you that you cannot manipulate the physical in everyway you want, or do whatever it takes to maintain the health of your vessel, and keep your eyes sharp, to find your own island in the distance?
If your journey has shown you anything, it had been that society doesn’t allow you access to certain waters. So what are you? One whose actions resort to crying about who you call the hysterical, blaming them for all the ills of humanity, or decide what it is you want—that which is you (the subjective situation with which you obtain the most pleasure—or least bit of pain. If it makes you feel good, it makes you feel good. If it stimulates you—great. If both—wonderful. This is the path of least resistance. This is the Buddha you sought. Your ego got in the way last time. Tyler has too much to prove.
Do you accept a situation and use your mind to best create an optimal result? Or do you want to continue snuggling up against your handcuffs?
Who are you are guys really trying to convince…me or yourselves?
I think that’s fine, but you have to realize there’s a certain morality or ethical judgment in evaluating actions as successes or failures.
Where is it located? How can we measure it? Where does it come from?
Wow. Your life sounds awful. If I had to live that way, I’d probably rather kill myself.
Wouldn’t that be quaint and convenient for all the moralists or humanists out there.
( Perhaps even for you.)
I would rather live and be a thorn in their fraudulent lie in giving myself some satisfaction in life.
On the contrary I am quite free mentally feeling absolutely liberated my only complaint is that I haven’t achieved physical liberation but that time will come soon for me.
I am free of all the constraints that the masses terrorize themselves with although there is a horrific irony that confronts me everyday but I’m strong enough to face it.
But you aren’t a thorn in anyone’s side. Nobody cares about the way you live your life. You aren’t a cause of any effect in anyone’s life.
How would you know? I’m afraid I am not in the mood of mind games that you are trying to spin with little resolve.
You have no idea what I know. You can’t read my mind. You have no idea what kind of mental abilities I have at all. For all you can prove, I am omniscient.
b[/b] Thanks I needed that bit of humor for today to brighten my mood up.
I personally think you would be a good stand up comedian for whatever it is worth.
I’d rather keep my own job thank you.
So you are a comedian…Neat! 
I knew it!
“It” being the ethical judgment?
" deterioration of a hysterical past era "
what does that mean ?
not really since it leads to for infinity , no change
as did the dinosauors.
so why not go to Africa , with nothing but a loin cloth and a spear , or bow ? simple enough life is it not ? is this kind of life not up your alley?
then as I mentioned go to Africa , live with a certain tribe and be happy. this life would a life of necessity for sure.
well get going , life of necessity is awaiting 
Sure why not… Where is it located at?
It means dead traditional values imposed on the living.
Explain.
I would go to a isolated location if I coud find a woman and others to go with me.
Noone likes to be alone. I would love to live like Tarzan somewhere with a Jane.
I’d really appreciate a response to my first question (second post!) regarding your assertion of ‘necessity’ for your belief.
Again: What’s necessary about ‘cause and effect’ as opposed to ‘good and evil’? Aren’t these ultimately the same kinds of dualities? (And aren’t there dualities everywhere – as many as you like?) Why stake your claim upon their necessity… and not their contingency?
After all, if TWO things are necessary for a third thing to occur, then neither is more necessary than the other. If one thing is necessary for another, and vice versa, then again, neither is any more necessary than the other. They are both just as important. Any duality suffers from this: the two become one if we focus only on necessity.
So please tell me: what does it mean to live a life of necessity?
Necessity in terms of survival has no moral attachments JoeTheMan.