Chaos

An obvious question: Why is the universe not perfect?

Define perfect

The universe is perfect. That it’s not ideal, however, is rather due to your ideal than to the universe.

It’s not perfect or ideal.

Those are human concepts, and the universe has nothing to do with that, or at least isn’t based on it.

Energy is constantly diffusing. One cause emits multiple effects. Everything looks different than everything else. There are 4 different forces that govern the universe.

Why?

The Universe is perfect in that it is perpetual. Perpetualty is perfection.

There are not four fundamental forces that govern the Universe, even the classical physicists are learning this. There are two forces.

For example, there is no ‘pull’. Pulling requires a reach, grab and a pull. This means six forces for two objects.

The 2 forces work like this- S–>

<–S.

Gravity is a structural force, by the way.

Huh?

  1. EM - Electromagnetic
  2. S - Strong
  3. W - Weak
  4. G - Gravity

Four forces…
Grab, pull, reach?
How is Gravity a structural force-- What does that mean, anyway?

Anyway, that is irrelevant. Things are different. If the universe were perfect, then nothing would be different. I’m afraid that “Perpetuality” does not make something perfect. That makes absolutely no sense.

If nothing was different from anything else, then nothing would ever change, because change inherently makes things different.

If nothing ever changed, no events would occur.

If no events occurred, the universe would not exist, in any meaning of the word “exist” that we can recognize.

Hmm… no preexisting condition to cause change, no reason to alter itself, no chaos, no diffusion, no cause and no effect…

Sounds like ‘nothing’ is indeed perfection, Navigator.
So, for the universe to be perfect, it would have to be nothing.

So, back to the question, why isn’t it?

Perhaps it is, and we only see it as otherwise because we have separated a part of the universe from the rest and call it “I,” thus generating all the experience of phenomena we call reality.

If perpetualty was not perfect it would be finite.

Gravity has no waves, therefore it is only a structural force. Caltech has spent nearly a billion dollars looking for gravity’s waves…they have found none and never will. Gravity holds us in place due to compression.

A force is something that exists BEFORE mass and energy.

Muscular philosopher,

Gravity is the outcome of a messenger particle called the “graviton” being thrown back and forth between two objects. The same is true for all forces and their respective messenger particles.

A force is something that exists BEFORE mass and energy, huh? Well… that doesn’t make sense either. Please Clarify.

You can’t just randomly spout “Perpetual” and then expect it to be true. Perfect does not mean infinite, either. Please Clarify.

Also, if you are going to provide statistics, please state your source so that I may check them.

Navigator,

If the universe is perfect, then what possibility would there be for viewing it differently? Why should we exist if the universe is already perfect?

The graviton is hypothetical. No such thing because the theory is flawed. It is physically impossible to have a particle which exerts an attractive force when it hits another particle. This why gravity is not defined correctly. Pure common sense.
The only reason the public is fed this garbage is because the public doesn’t know any better.
All this is merely academia trying to prove the big bang.

There is a motion before mass. Energy/mass do not come from nothing. There is no nothing. The fourth dimension is non-spatial and yet the photon rotates in it. Huh? Motion in the non-spatial? Yep.
Clarity, as in specific names and models coming when published in the next few months, or earlier.

Perpetualty is perfection because it is singular, cannot be reduced or added to and is infinite.

Ever heard of Euler’s equation? Yep, graviton exists. How else would gravity work? Forces themselves don’t “compress” anything. That would make very little sense.

Gravity displaces space/time. No compression there! For compression to occur, you need a medium. Gravity exists regardless of any medium.(Those waves you were talking about are ripples in space/time caused by mass changes)

You’re not a very proffessional person for someone claiming to publish a paper that will alter everyone’s thoughts about the big bang. What do reviewers say about your paper? Any proffessional would be eager to demonstrate his ideas through examples.

You read a modern physics book and think you know how physics operates. That is a fatal flaw. You don’t speak like anyone in a position to publish anything in the physics community.

Perpetuity is not the universe, therefore does not affect the characteristics of it.

The best way I can answer this is mathematically.

The perfect, unchanging, unmodified universe is zero. There is no other number, so all operations must be performed on zero by zero.

Zero times zero? Still zero.

Zero plus zero? Zero minus zero? Still zero.

Zero to the zero power? One. But since events of any kind require at least two, one reduces to zero as we discussed earlier.

Zero divided by zero? Ah – that’s solved by any real number.

The perfect universe divided itself by itself, and came up with all the phenomena of experience. Which is another way of saying what I said before.

Why do this? I would say that it was mathematically inevitable.

Actually, you under-estimate your opponent. You also misunderstand time itself, along with the speeds that cause compression.
How does gravity displace the photon rotation? Nonsense. The Photon is both spatial and non-spatial and uneffected by compression from greater speeds. The photon rotation gives us time or speed we exist in.

The graviton is an imagined unit, as is the basis of euler’s equation. If we are going to say that imagined units exist, well, so does santa claus.

You know that one can use mathematics to say anything he wants. Nature defines math, math does not define nature.

As far as being unprofessional, not many on this site would be interested in reading about how c^2 = 2v^2-s^2 leads to v = eP^2. Booooring.

Gravity is a structural force, which is why Caltech cannot find any waves, which are slower that SOL. We should be able to find such waves…if they were real.

You may disagree and that’s fine, but do you understand what you are disagreeing with?

I greatly understand the topic and am pretty fluent in it. I also understand both sides, and still have no idea where you are really coming from, so I’m left to argue your individual points rather than your argument.

Where did that equation come from, btw?

I would just like the following things from you before I continue to argue:

  1. What do you mean by gravity being a “structural” force? (I’m still not grasping your definition)

  2. How do you suppose there are only 2 forces? Examples?

  3. Finally, for justification purposes, what are your credentials? (I’m assuming that you won’t just lie. Although credentials don’t really matter on this website, I would like to know whether or not to accept your grasp on physical concepts) I’m guessing: High School student at a magnet school?

Because if it was nothing you would not be here to observe it. It’s a natural law. To exist (which is to be observed) a universe must be in a way that gives way to observers. Very panglossian.