The case of a schoolgirl who fell pregnant at the age of 11 has prompted calls for a better teenage sexual health strategy in Scotland.
Once again another young mother steps upon the ladder of Motherhood!! It’s bizzare to say the least. Piglets having piglets. Mind you one observation I have made is that, the press and people generally, flip between the terms, child and teenager like there was no difference. I suppose in a very real sense there isn’t. But that’s because we live in an age of imposed immaturity and mollycoddling - of loving neglect.
My God!! If the young can have babies, maybe they can think too, maybe they can do all sorts of wonderful things…
Interestingly the boy is being charged with rape because the girl is underage but the girl isn’t being charged with rape because… nope, she commited the same crime, sex with minor/statutory rape. Oh, but she’s pregnant so it’d look really draconian to actually apply the same standard to both sexes…
Personally I think that the girl should be publically flogged as a harlot and the boy should lose one testicle via a method of his own choosing…
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Personally, they are both children, so neither should be charged or punished by means of adjudication.
The parents on the other hand, should be flogged. They are to blame for fucking blowing it on their responsibility, and they should be sterilized.
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No more than your self-righteous day, eh, angelic one?
{that was for SIATD’s benefit… name that allusion}
Mastriani, you could put your disclaimer in your sig so you don’t have to cut and paste each time you submit a post. Besides, dude, anyone who doesn’t understand that there is a silent/unwritten agreement just like your disclaimer is not going to really understand your disclaimer anyways and they may not be worth the effort.
Hi LA, I had a dream about you… it was very appropriate, I can assure you. I dreamt you said: “god was in the rain” just like in the movie (though it was not raining) and then you started dancing a ballet dance but all I could see were your eyes and then you became an Eagle and soared away where I saw, through the Eagle, the lake and forrest below. Then the dream changed into something else… I dreamt of strawberries.
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Sorry thirst, nope, no dice, no deal … it is now a permanent header. Deal with it, or don’t, I really couldn’t give a fuck either way.
Colinsign, you have to engaging a jest here yes?
You certainly don’t see this as appropriate for an eleven year old to be a mother, do you?
What happened, Mas? Who hurt you?
Not that I give a fuck, you understand…
For The Record: I wasn’t trying to barter a deal…
And I’m sure you realize you don’t need to say “sorry” for doing as you please…
I wouldn’t apologize for that, neither should you…
As a father of 21 year old daughter, I can say it won’t
be pretty in that home. children raising children never really
works out well. As far as the children being punished, if
they are underage, no punishment for either if it is
consensual sex except one, the boy should have to get a
after school job and work for family support of the child.
Now I now he can never make enough to actually support
the child, but the point is not really to punish him, but to
get him to take responsibility for his actions. And that is the
lesson that needs to be learned. Punishing people does not
force them to take responsibility for actions, it simple punishes
them. A better idea is to get people to take responsibility for
their actions.
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Give me a break with that pussy shit about “hurt”.
It seems to me, that just as a general rule, ascerbic commentary is not only warranted, but habitually acceptable … so I say, why not join the fray?
You sounded like you were bartering.
You do what you do, I’ll do what I do … and then we can just accept a general rule of mutually fucking … right off. That at least, can be a common understanding.
Mr. Kropotkin,
Why do you assume that the solitary responsibility for the child’s welfare rests with the young man?
A prick with no vagina to penetrate can’t procreate, so why shouldn’t she have to work through her pregnancy as well? Where’s her responsibility for gapping her legs?
Responsibility should be uniform, and not a matter of bias, in my opinion.
Thirst4me, I am not, I am merely poking some controversial fun…and there is an element of truth…if we Sit on a Child…it can’t stand up! You have to sleep in the bed you’ve made.
Colinsign, you have to engaging a jest here yes?
Mastriani I am jesting ever so slightly…but what’s the harm in making them take responsiblity? Sure it’s farcially young to be withchild…but y’know, it could be worse, she could be popping pills or sniffing glue!
Idon’t know maybe she will be forever scared from the loss of her ‘socially imposed innocent childhood’ maybe she’ll become a stronger woman from it…maybe she’ll marry the boy she slept with and they’ll have a great life. Maybe everyone will be nosy and continually judge her as though she never had grown up. Maybe she should put it up for adoption…
Mastriani:
Mr. Kropotkin,
Why do you assume that the solitary responsibility for the child’s welfare rests with the young man?
K: I didn’t assume anything. I said instead of punishment, the
boy should get a job and help provide financial support for
the baby. It will not be enough to actually support the child,
but it does help him take responsibility for his actions, which
is the goal I was really aiming for.
The mother if she keeps it will be tied down for
the next 20 years taking care of the baby. That is her
responsibility. Young people don’t really understand
what a truly time consuming and awesome responsibility
raising a child is. Once you have a child, your life is not
your own for 20 years.
M: A prick with no vagina to penetrate can’t procreate, so why shouldn’t she have to work through her pregnancy as well? Where’s her responsibility for gapping her legs?
K: she does have responsibility to keep her legs close, but
children make mistakes, that is why they are children.
The responsibility I speak of is in taking care of the child and
giving up the next 20 years of her life. Working through a
pregnancy can sometimes happen and medically sometimes
not. I don’t have enough information in this case to make
a judgement wither she can work through the pregnancy or not.
M: Responsibility should be uniform, and not a matter of bias, in my opinion.
K: the problem is the situation may not allow uniform responsibilities
taking. You can’t force a situation to have a uniform response
if the situation doesn’t allow it. Would you have her work a job
40 hours a week to support the baby, to create responsibility?
Of course not. Her situation is different from his. The response
must be different. In both cases they are young, and school must
be in the mix somehow. So you have a couple of different things
you must account for, age and schooling for starters.
He is not taking care of the child and must somehow take
responsibility for child rearing, an after school job answers that
part.
Ask anyone on either side of the pond engaged in social welfare work what the picture is for an eleven year old “mother”. At this point, it really makes little difference in the finger-pointing game. The whole thing is tragedy. Society isn’t equipped to deal positively with children having children, and the result will be the girl being throw on the trash heap along with the baby. Two lives ruined. The boy may or may not escape because society isn’t capable of dealing with him either.
I’ve a good friend who is an obstetrician and it isn’t just 11 year olds. Some are as young as nine…
Awww…so pessimistic…I’m sure her family will all muck into help her…oops, and state benefits…perhaps if we all had a bit more faith in the abilities of other human beings to overcome hardship they would! And we would redeem mankind…not refund it!
I know you were teasing… so I teased back, you heretic.
Besides, that was for SIATD’s benefit…
I am certain he will follow the allusion to something we both are fans of…
Mastriani, you are an interesting fellow. At times, I can’t comprehend you though and in fact, you fascinate me because of that… For example, I would question why you would call discussing feelings “pussy shit”. It resonates with a bit of machismo and it’s difficult for me to reconcile that statement with your usual stance on women, on religion & philosophy, it just seems strange coming from you… I can only conclude that you are right to put in your disclaimer.
This story would surprise me if only the girl and family in question werent chavs. 20 fags a day? Going out and getting pissed? Pregnancy? At eleven? No one else.
If the mother can choose whether or not to have the baby, then the father should be able to choose whether or not to help support it. A financial abortion, if you will.
