Chronicalling McCain(and Palin)

Yea , mcCain needs to lay off his miltary experience. It was a sad joke. It also insults the hell out of military families. 5 years as a POW does not give military experience, Killing your own planes is just embarrassing. All around the guy is just not military. He does make a good follower though and that is what a president is supposed to do.

I give him credit for serving and suffering for the country. I don’t think his service record qualifies him as an effective leader. Neither does his political career.

His biggest accomplishment is McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill. But that bill hasn’t accomplished what it was supposed to do.

Most of his senate bills failed because as “maverick” he had too few allies . Because of his history in the Senate, he will have problems getting things done as a president. He lacks sufficient support in Washinton from either major party.

His lack of support could make him a better president. He follows well enough and he has a tough personna.

If I really could choose to see who sits in the offices of President and vice president though it would be Powell as pres and as much as I think the woman is a crook I would see Clinton as VP. Those two would make for an intimidating pair. And they would probably work for the people. Powell could keep Billy boy and Hillary in line.

That depends on what you mean by “better.” Without support a president can’t get anything done. Jimmy Carter was great in terms of his values. But he garnered little support for his agenda in Washington. Consequently his presidency was largely a failure.

Carter did not have a strong enough personna. He was viewed as a pushover. McCain could not be viewed as such. Carter also did not have very strong people on his staff, this was his largest hinderence. If McCain is smart, he will surround himself with strong staff members.

Most folks forget that the president generally only delegates things. It is the staff that does the real work of convincing or changing attitudes. If the staff cannot control those that have to deal with the president then there is no hope that the president will be strong or good. The president must be able to control his/her staff in order for the staff to get their jobs done. Then we have to really understand thatthe president is only a figure head and a pinnacle. Behind the president are the real controllers. Those that own the president.

Ah, but there’s the rub…

Felix,

Put a gold star on the calendar! We agree on something! :smiley: There is no denying that Mc boondoggle is clever, but that isn’t the same as being smart…

Right. McCain is fronting an ugly campaign based on deception, and ignorance. He’s offering short-sighted appeals to people’s pocket books at the expense long term greater goods. If he keeps it up he’ll probably get elected. :laughing:

McCain claims he is an opponent of “pork barrel” spending, and mocks a multi-million dollar allocation for the study of bear DNA. Guess what, he voted for it.

youtube.com/watch?v=-Umj6g6iE8E
video of him mocking bear DNA study

nytimes.com/2008/03/12/opini … ref=slogin

And he voted for it himself

factcheck.org/outrageous_exaggerations.html

youtube.com/watch?v=LPFa_nrY … re=related

LOL. John McCain says everything is on the table in regards to payroll tax increases for social security. Then his national spokesman implies that McCain was wrong and tax increases are unimaginable for his campaign.

you come across as insecure about your messiah…

are you afraid?

all you do is attack McCain. I thought this party was all about equality and not throwing around “smears”

If I have gotten something wrong, by all means correct me.

Yes. McCain is a neoconservative war monger. I’m afraid he would involved the US in more unnecessary preemptive wars like the one in Iraq.

you should be more afraid of the obamamessiah… he is a socialist tyrant and his election will bring a necessary civil war/counter revolution…

but don’t worry, obama doesn’t have a chance

-Imp

Yes, McCain’s proposals to remove Russia from the G8, and include former USSR countries in NATO either means that he is ignorant of the cushion of influence Russia will fight for, or is wanting some kind of major conflict.

Interesting to note that McCain’s top foreign policy expert is a paid lobbyist for the Georgian government. One wonders what someone on the payroll of another government is doing in such a critical position…what happens if McCain is elected and the paid lobbyist acquires a top cabinet position? Moreover, how can someone trust him on foreign policy in general when it is heavily influenced by someone who’s job is to lobby for another government. Certainly we are seeing the impact of this in his bellicose position toward Russia, and his 9/11esqe proclamations that “we are all Georgians now”.

Oh yeah, Phil Gramm is back too.

this is fun

-Imp

N/m, I’m not going to be baited into defending against inflammatory idiotic remarks. Instead, I will leave you to your irrelevance.

thinkprogress.org/2008/08/20/mccain-econ-strong/

Meanwhile

washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 03532.html

And, McCain tells us that one is rich if one makes more than 5 million dollars. He “catches” himself though?
youtube.com/watch?v=9Q2sAFH7zj0

The browser I’m using prevents me from watching the video, let me know if it isn’t what it says it is.

McCain’s response when Obama mentioned all the above in a speech

voices.washingtonpost.com/the-tr … obama.html

The most interesting of the 3 different responses the McCain campaign put out is “This is a guy who lived in one house for five and a half years – in prison”.

From what I can tell, McCain has shyed away from politicizing his time as a POW, but this is the third time in the current campaign that he has used it. Notice that it is not relevant to how many homes he actually has, and has nothing to do with Obama’s attack on him. It is a complete politicization of his time as a POW, from his own campaign. One wonders how many times they have to politicize it before it begins to lose significance. It’s a dangerous game they’re playing.

yes, the cut, run and surrender cowards who want to destroy the economy through higher taxes are questioning mc cain’s patriotism and the obamamessiah begs mc cain to call him patriotic…

very dangerous indeed.

how’s your step brother obama?

-Imp