Come In Here and Criticize Each Other's Aphorisms

IF THE LONG ASS INTRO IS ONLY GOING TO END UP MAKING YOU CLICK THE BACK BUTTON, THEN READ THIS SENTENCE ITS IN CAPS AND IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING: JUST START CRITICIZING THE APHORISMS/MAXIMS/WHATEVER THAT ARE IN THE GIANT LIST BELOW, AND THEN CONTRIBUTE SOME OF YOUR OWN IF YOU WANT SO OTHERS LIKE ME CAN CRITICIZE THEM.

Lets get down to brass tacks here. I think we’re going to have to find a way of overcoming the problem of never being able to get a good idea into text due to all the obstacles that build up like a pile of philosophical pig shit. Whenever we find what would seem to be a “good idea”, your mind is able to argue both FOR and AGAINST it… Its difficult to keep track of the idea in question when you have to do this yourself, so I’m asking you to help do it for me. I’m going to put up a hell of an offense, and you better give me hell too because this is mutually beneficial ass-kicking here. I’m trying really hard not to fuck up my thoughts as I’m writing them, because if I catch a drift of something that loosens my confidence, everything goes to shit.

So I figured it wouldn’t hurt to invent some confidence - you know, be a real asshole and drain the collective consciousness of some of its credibility… but, its not like we haven’t been letting assholes get away with the same thing for years. I’m sorry to say, but I think you guys are some of the assholes - and it surprises me how much compassion and other gay shit I’m about to give to you (when its already scarce). Anyways, if you haven’t caught the point of these two introductory paragraphs, I’m implying that I want YOU to think of ME as an asshole. Get it? Now use that mentality on this long list of aphorism below… and uhh, contribute your own aphorisms too. Start pumping your creative juices out into this thread – you may not get the fame and fortune you desired when your ideas get harvested. Lets harvest some real truth out of this - let us be Prometheus - let us be Dionysus - let us be Hunter S Thompson - let us be Bob Dylan - let us be Bill Murray… And if that load of grandeur only means that we’re going to dig up unavoidable nihilism that ends up fucking with all of our heads, so be it; it will at least be truthful - even if the truth we find is that we can’t “find” truth because words only take you so far until going further seems pointless. Lets be Fascist

Also, it might help to attempt organizing all these things into some kind of a numerical list – or some way so we can keep track… Just figure out how to organize your aphorisms with a system of symbols that someone else hasn’t done yet…

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  1. Do the words “hypocrit” and “perspectivist” mean the same thing? And which one is used depends on the person saying it? Doctor: "Smoking’s bad for you don’t do it.

  2. Would it be correct to view “improvement” as meaningless? Meaningless as defined by, the suffering of future generations not being mitigated from improvements made by past generations.

  3. If we are all just one mind, then occasions of conflict between people (and groups of people) are just occurences of cognitive dissonance within that one mind.

  4. I can’t help but get the feeling that there is only an illusion of progress - and that “conflicts” have to exist in this world in order to provide meaning.

  5. I can’t tell sometimes if I’m just being too hard on other people or if its possible that I’ve actually been considering chewing down moral American bullshit.

  6. I think there is might be an unconscious barrier (which may be in all people via evolutionary psychology, or only all of the people in Judeo-Christian society, or only a few individuals, or no one at all - or a combination of those… Thats a fuckin tedious dose of scrambled eggs right there) that is meant to block unattractive and/or isolated people like me from blaming others for their problems - or perhaps this is just my greater sense of compassion lingering (or perhaps more like a giant watch dog) guarding the entrance of “Narcissism” to keep them out. But doesn’t this big dumb mutt realize that its keeping me from doing what is necessary? Who the Hell placed it here? Me? Others who bombarded me with their superficial morals to keep me at bay while they went and started fucking behind the bushes? Perhaps it was both me and the others?

  7. Returning to the Hound of the Baskervilles in my unconscious mind which I mentioned in the previous aphorism #6, it will not move despite all of my reason and rationality - but in the past I think I usually just told it to go fuck itself and that did the trick… Maybe that implies that the moral puzzle forming the “Watch Dog” has to be solved with something you know to be true from experience. Hence, logic by itself will not suffice. Kick ass, I think I just came to a conclusion. Now its your turn to tell me why you think its wrong, and then make it better yourself so then the next person after you in this gigantic line of philosophers can contribute their “twist” to the rubix cube. We may very well run around in circles, but at least we tried.

  8. The problem with Americans (I have always lived in the USA myself, so I don’t actually have the proper credentials needed for this aphorism) is that they feel entitled to their desires the first time they feel them, and begin defending those desires without ever actually knowing what they are for (or much less if they even want them).

  9. Real fascism is compassionate - everyone trusts each other to do their part; the proud spend their social time giving respect instead of expecting it.

  10. “You had to create a loophole (which served you as both a weapon and a defense) to sneak out of your own religion undetected - which could be credited as craftiness, ill give you that; but what could you have possibly been thinking when you tried using that same weapon on someone outside of your old religion? I am the fire of destruction which churns the never-ending seas of chaos and oblivion. You are in my realm now - be devoured by it.”

  • spoke Mikha’el before destroying Satan

I can’t think anymore right now and I wanted to type out so much more. As soon as my brain works again, I’ll type out more. In the meantime, I’d appreciate it if you could point out everything that sucks.

Good thread.

Not sure what kind of response you were looking for, but here you go:

This is a bit unclear to me. Even if you think that it is impossible to change the overall proportion of suffering from generation to generation, specific instances/types of suffering have certainly been prevented or mitigated, no? (Medicine, sanitation, advanced technologies, certain political systems…have not mitigated any suffering?)

Your idea of progress (of the object of progress) is a world without conflict?

What, fundamentally, is conflict?

Do you see conflict here?: I

What about here?: /

Fuckers!

I’m curious about this big dumb mutt. What does this guard dog represent?

Double post.

I think I was aiming for “net suffering” or “overall suffering”. It was supposed to provoke a response to the hidden question “Does the human brain still produce the same amount of pleasure overall - despite the varying circumstances for that pleasure?” For example, would a cancer-ridden hobo be as happy as a multi-billionaire? Perhaps it all just depends on a person’s own expectations - such an individual who has grown up in this generation without food/water/disease being an immediate issue; their brain would not get the same level of pleasure from eating that a person several centuries ago would have. A person several centuries ago had to put forth more effort into acquiring food (and other survival assetts) - hence, their brain gave more of a reward.

So, if our expectations will constantly fluctuate to accommodate for current needs/wants, then our past needs/wants become less pleasurable, and over-all we experience pleasure based on our expectations (similar to the concept “what a person doesnt know doesn’t hurt him”). Couldn’t I be just as content in life if I sat in one spot all day doing nothing? As long as I perceived “doing nothing” as one of my expected desires.

That brings us in to a whole different discussion: “What is conflict?”
If you want my opinion, I think (for the purpose of the root aphorism being discussed) we should keep the definition vague; something like “The definition of conflict [between people or groups of people] is a disagreement or an opposition resulting from a scarcity of resources (desired by the two opposing parties)”

The accumulation of artificial excuses given by others; or they could be recognized as “popular fallacies”. Popular fallacies can often contradict each other, disabling their validity as a “solution to all scenarios”. An example would be,
Person A: "What are you asking me for help for? The blind can’t lead the blind, you know.
Person B: “Yes, but when attempting a solution at any problem, two minds are better than one.

The “big dumb mutt” is the virtual guard preventing any philosopher (or intellectual thinker in general) from bringing other people outside of their comfort zone.