Compare Obama and Clinton Under Heat Of Campaign

One attribute desired in a president is their reaction to stress and natural calm in situations where others are given to frenzy. For an example, on need look no further than the race for Democratic nomination. While Hillary Clinton is desparately throwing the kitchen sink at Barack Obama, Obama remains above the fray, deflecting cheap shots while determinedly executing a winning campaign. Clinton will pursue every avenue available and make any case that withstands the barest of grammatical sense to beg for the nomination. Obama will run his best campaign and win or lose by the rules, and go on to fight for president or support Hillary with equanimity.

O-bomb is the fucking balls.

I prefer a fighter. if nothing else Clinton can throw some mean crap… I rather like that. She would make a stronger President than her husband did that is for sure. Obama to me is only showing that he has no fight. I can see him hesitating when an insult is thrown at the USA. He will kow tow and beg forgiveness. Clinton on the other hand just might smile that bitchy smile and send the army out to get satisfaction,depending upon what time of the month it is… McCain would probably nap through it, then smile then look confused and claim he had a POW flashback and ummm, what, Yes Reagan was his hero, Who?

Sorry folks the best person for the job is not running sadly. The cretins that are running are pitiful. Collin Powell is military and diplomat, just what the president should be, not politician. That guy I would back for Pres any day. Powell for Preident in 2012!

I agree about Powell. But his credibility was used up by Bush. Ever the good soldier, he kept mum about it.

Obama has a remarkable authenticity. Clinton adopts a different persona for every occasion. Her willingness to do whatever it takes tells me that her ambition is the most real thing about her.

I agree that he lost alot of credibility, but I feel he gained it back when he resigned. He soldiered on as best he could for as long as he could but when it got to a point where the light at the end of the tunnel was quite obviously never going to appear, he politely resigned and stepped down.

Its that do what it takes personna that can make her a safer president or a stronger president. Obama is more skillful in doing the double talk and making it sound like he is really saying something with meat. He may be better at swaying the world. But, we know the US, we know sooner or later someone is going to push us. Do we push back or do we take it? Obama is a take it and Clinton is a push back.

Which candidate does the world want us to have as president? Especially our enemies or those that we are on thin ice with… Which ever one they or the world wants go with the other one. :laughing:

obama hopes he can run away from his minister

elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/12 … hot-water/

youtube.com/watch?v=HfNEfEBYIZs

-Imp

Many people hope to do that sooner or later. :sunglasses:

That would be a tight foot race between him and McCain, who’s had his share of endorsements from nutty fundie ministers, lol.

obama and his family has been going to see this hate monger for the last 20 years.

repudiate what he says?

obama should have been denouncing and repudiating it for the last 20 years.

did he? hell no. he kept going back week after week.

20 years of hate.

obama is finished

-Imp

Hillary can think on here feet better than Obama…watch him during some of the debates, he says “Uhm” a lot.

All this causes me to think about that essential difference between their levels of experience that she loves to bring up. Maybe what she means is not only that she’s interacted with world leaders or been privy to decision making at the level of the presidency, but also that she’s been attacked by the right for so long and has learned to wallow down there in the mud with them and still come out swinging at that level. Obama hasn’t been tested in that way, which happens to be the way of contemporary American politics.

Against McCain, my money’s on Clinton, if she ends up the nominee. He’s fundamentally a hothead who’s travelled around the map in terms of his loyalties and positions. And she’s gonna find all those buttons and push them publicly. Even then, you have many Kool-Aid drinkers who wouldn’t vote for her regardless of how thoroughly she trounces him. So if she wins the Democratic nomination, perhaps her strategy will be to convince them to just stay home on election day 2008. :slight_smile:

All this crap about Obama being inexperienced I listened to in the Kennedy - Nixon campaigns The same tiresome mudslinging and this is turning into SOS.

I think Obama has a better chance simply because he doesn’t have much of a track record. If Mac or Clinton won the presidency, it will be another four years of government gridlock. They’ve both made deals with Washington devils so many times that they would never cut the strings and begin moving in a different direction. If all we want is samo samo, then McCain or Clinton would be a good choice.

Spare change, anyone?

I went to that site a few days ago Imp. I made a statement about how the candidates have foresworn thier oaths as senators, so how could we trust them etc… I used my online name, I just checked there. I kind of hoped some one would step away from racism and genderism long enough to respond… Nope. I even started out with an insult calling people idiots… Nothing… It is sad to see that people can only pick up on subjects the media tells them to. For people to look deeper into the politicians motives and actions, it seems it would take a good thunking upside their skulls.

These Senators are not doing their jobs, so how can we trust them to be president? It is such a simple observation and one that is quite obvious. Why can’t people understand it?

for the 12-15% of the population that is far left totalitarian socialist masquerading as main stream democrat (the main stream media included) they find the hate speech of wright perfectly acceptable and they agree with it as gospel. to them, wright is correct. people do understand it and they will see it as much as the msm tries to hide it… it’s a brave new world and the time for socialist dictators is over…

[size=200]viva la revolution!!![/size]

-Imp

Yea, Vive la pathetic revolution filled with those that accept the norm as told to. Ahh, the tea throwing ancestors would be so disheartened. One almost wants to become a real nihilst not one of these pretenders, but, hope still is romping about out there somewhere.

So much misdirected angst! I can’t even tell what you guys stand for. What I’m getting is that 12-15% (which is, I take it, a made up figure, because statistics on what people are under their masquerades are notoriously difficult to measure) of the population is willing to consider Wright’s claims in spite of the mainstream villification of him. While his claim that the government created AIDS is a little out there (though no more so than many a position taken on this very board), pointing out that US foreign policy had something to do with 9/11 is pretty reasonable. To deny them all because they came from the same mouth. As I am wont to point out, Hitler breathed, and we’re not going to suffocate because we disagreed with the Holocaust.

Besides, if you’re looking for revolution, Obama’s campaign is the closest thing we’ve seen to it in a while. He’s inspired more young people to vote, he’s garnered more support from more people (and I mean monetary support, which passes a certain threshold of significance) than any other political candidate in history. He’s broken record after record for turnout and financial contribution. Revolutions don’t need blood. If a dramatic shift in policy and practice can be achieved peacefully (and I think Ghandi showed it can), revolutions can be powerful without being violent. Bloodshed favors those with guns, and this revolution is largely against the imperialist warmongering of late. A peaceful political revolution just makes sense.

riiiiiiight… peaceful coup d’etat into socialist slavery…

count those swinging chads…

-Imp

Come on, Imp. Big ideas like yours need more than 20 words to get across.