Consciousness shares a key aspect of gravity and the other 3 forces in that it can control a particle’s movement and at the same time not need energy to cause the movement and also be immaterial at the same time. This force is stronger than gravity but weaker than the strong, weak, electromagnetic force, because it cannot pull apart a proton from a neutron. However, consciousness is decidedly different from the 4 forces in that it cannot be predicted with mathematics. Other key differences include the obvious that consciousness can have intentions and knowledge.
Gravity moves objects according to a mathematical rule, consciousness moves particles where it wants.
As I said consciousness has a specific strength though it may fluctuate within a range, but there comes a point where an object becomes so heavy that consciousness cannot move it.
Our brains are set up such that the particles inside them are small enough that consciousness can still move them.
This solves the problem of how order arises in the universe in spite of the second law of thermodynamics. The common response to how order arises in a universe in spite of entropy is that the second law only applies to a closed system. If I close my room, and there is a human being inside it, then obviously that room can come to be more ordered due to the consciousness of the human. If the room is closed for thousands of years with no conscious being inside it, like Tutankamun’s room, then it will gradually become less ordered.
There is a level of predictability that can be associated with consciousness as well - in regards to how our conscious mind interprets and goes about making decisions when an external stimuli is presented (particularly in case studies) such as our cell phones going off and the hand almost simultaneously reaching for them if possible at that given time …are we doomed to repeat these because the mental processes occurring after the stimuli presents itself lead us to reacting in the manner predicted, or is it a product of an individual operating on behalf of something occurring subconsciously?
I’m not too confident variance in thought can be reason enough to consider consciousness as a force either.
You can fire the synapses in your brain, which then causes the nerves to move the muscles. How else do you expect 100 trillion synapses to coordinate unless there is some intelligence that is capable of coordinating them?
An important distinction must be made when discussing consciousness (conscious & subconscious) To what extent can we say we’re consciously thinking when our body and environment are undergoing rapid changes and responding to external/internal stimuli that our minds must adjust to accordingly?
It also doesn’t seem right (or at least it’s lacking sufficient explanation) that variance in thought can be reason enough to consider consciousness a force.
Sorry Kyle. But you’re writing bullshit. Even my level of understanding of neuroscience is sufficient to determine this. You can’t fire synapses. Synapses are junctions between cells.
This is science not storytelling. You can’t just make this shit up. If you want to propose some grand theory with even a tiny bit of credibility then you need at the very least a superficial understanding of the science.
Why is it bullshit? Thought controls, molds, shapes our ideas and actions. Idea and action, they are one and the same. All our actions are born out of ideas.
Thought extracts knowledge out of past experiences, compares the present with it, passes judgments, concocts a future and pursues it, all of which is deliberate neural coordination activity in the brain.
I wrote why it’s bullshit. Because you can’t ‘fire the synapses in your brain’. Synapses are junctions between cells you can’t ‘fire’ them. Neurobiology is science not poetry. You can’t just make it up as you go along.
When the chemicals cross from one neuron to another via a synapse, that is called firing. This process does happen. If you cannot control this process then you have no free will. If this process is not coordinated among all the 100 trillion synapses then the human cannot perform a coordinated action. An intelligence is needed that has knowledge of all these synapses in order for a human to function.
kyle, are you proposing that consciousness is a physical force like gravity or electromagnetism? If so, it’s a testable proposition. What would you propose as a test?
You might call it firing. I don’t know if it’s a biological term used by real neuroscientists. You write that synapses fire. Synapses don’t fire. They’re junctions between cells. Neurotransmitters pass between these junctions. I don’t think it’s impolite to point out that you write like you’re an expert in neuroscience when you’re clearly not.
^^^^The mind changes information which when put back in the world changes things in the world. Chemicals and em are not informational thought.
May I just add that the object consciousness can lift is only limited by the tool it uses e.g. normally that’s the human body, but you could extend that or put consciousness into a far stronger tool. Not sure where the limits are when you consider what possible sci-fi machines one could incorporate into its being.
Another point is that ‘if’ you had consciousness prior to or during the first moments of the big bang prior to the formation of particles, then maybe it can move whatever is there. Certainly it could think up laws by which things move, though I have no idea how that would be implemented ~ such that those principles apply to objects. Maybe ‘the thought becomes real’ is key here.
Consciousness, it seems, is so very vast. Or is it that we have the potential for so much memory that gives us the feeling there can be no end to what we can be aware of as well as being creative with what is in memory. And just imagine all the different directions that such a consciousness can push us.