Conspiracy? Well.. perhaps to you -- Part 1.

Philosophy Forums Society, Government, and Economics
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First I should warn that most of what will be posted in this truth series will drastically challenge your world view. Concepts and things that have attempted to be discredited through TV and the media will likely appear as ‘sci fi’ or just flat out ridiculous. I advise you to suspend your beliefs.

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Alright I figure that the best way to open up some people’s minds is let them see a glimpse of the real world we live in. Or rather, the world in which they live in.

Currently earth is being watched by a number of different aliens. I will get into that next.

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From Project Redbook

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From the extinct line of thinking archives.

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Gobbo, I’m down with be open minded and all, but you have to have some filters. Do you believe everything “unofficial” that is posted on the web? Where is the proof of any of the things stated in that link, and how on earth can you justify believing in such things? Really, I would like to know.

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That’s a fair question, one which I try and avoid actually.

I’m not gonna lie to you, there is a distinct filter.

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So you’re not going to answer it then?

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I reckon all that stuff is just an ingenious subterfuge, to draw attention away
from the REAL shit that’s going down.

You working for the Big Boys now Mr.Gobbo…?

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Drop the bong and step away son.

:laughing:

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Let me guess, Gobbo - it’s gamma rays. The gamma rays hit you just a little bit differently than they do other people. Maybe you need to open a gamma ray salon. Make some money while you save the world.

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[b]NoelyG,

[/b]What would you say if I responded with intuition and what I feel to be a fair amount of research?

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Alright… I’ll try and explain it (this thread) from my point of view… perhaps that will clear things up.

When I look at that article, I see a bunch of entries/recording/whatever, mostly from the 40-70’s era in fact. What I find to be perfectly logical, yet intuitively incorrect is that even half of these would be recorded with the explicit knowledge that they had perpetrated some hoax in which actual people disappear for some reason or another. To further explicate this, I would also find it logical possible, yet intuitively incorrect that a sole person would engineer an enter booklet of claims, most of which could probability be checked into to one degree or another.

I find it intuitively incorrect that every circle crop is a hoax, or that every UFO spotting is someone’s cry for attention. Or that every abduction story is just some psychological phenomenon. Government technology is at worst, 20 years ahead of us, and if you haven’t noticed… that’s a pretty big difference to us, at what appears to be, and is in a cosmic sense, the barest trickles of the incoming exponential wave.

You can feel when people are being sincere, even in writing. That’s part of the mystery as to how we can communicate – we’re all connected. Sure I come across a ton of bullshit but it’s like a net (no pun intended), when you sweep it through the Internet sea, eventually the logical bits start to add up.

What people have a hard time understanding is that it’s nothing new, the answers have been here all along. All around us. Folk stories, movies, legends, it all starts to add up in a conceptual time line.

But anyways, coming back to the article, it doesn’t matter if you can find a few stories which don’t add up, the point is: Can you accept that we’re being watched? That humans are viewed as no less that ignorant potential?

If you can, you’ll understand why our potential actually entails, and it’s significant.

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Gobbo - everyone knows that people make crop circles - this is no longer a mystery. You can learn how to do this online - for free.

No one has ever verified any of these claims. Not one. What are you talking about? What has been your research other than finding websites? That is not research. Surely you know how cheaply a website can be had. It’s just words - there is no fact on that page - but just words. A vast subterranean world populated by neonazi mutants? Bases in Antarctica? Yes, it could be checked. There is no base of subterranean neonazi mutants there. Is there? Got pics?

In fact, much more than a booklet has been fabricated by one man - many times. H. G. Wells, for instance. J. R. R. Tolkein. RPG creators. Goblins are not real. The problem is not in finding a few stories that don’t add up. The problem is finding one that does.

Okay, the mob hit Kennedy. But, from their point of view, he had it coming.

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Yeah I don’t doubt that…

And…I’m not saying its not possible for the information on that website to be true, but…why would you have any reason to believe it?

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Gobbo,

I have no convincing reason to believe this, but it is in the remotely possible. There could very well be life existing outside this planet, but unless such life exists in the very nearest of star systems (and even then it’s a stretch, in terms of travel times) it would be impossible for them to watch us without the means to bend space (keeping in mind that space bending should be detectable). It is hard to say whether this is possible or not, as our understanding may be limited.

Potential for what? Potential has to be measured against something that is possible, and how do we know that we are capable of anything more than what we are?

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Let’s say perhaps they are not detected in the sense that we don’t detect them. I mean if they were working with these elites, it would make sense that their presence would seemingly remain a mystery. Likewise there is a reason the satelite to monitor solar flares has been quieted up, if not taken downn.

Let’s say hypothetically there were, essentially, two alien groups: One, more powerful, working with the elites to ensure control of earth and its resources; and another, more what we would deem to be beneficial to us. The first more powerful group isn’t all that impressed we have awareness in the sense that we view it to begin with and so basically wants to get us ‘under control’ again.

The second group understands why, as reflected in the bible, the alien which represented itself as the serpent gave us knowledge. That ‘why’ is the potential. And you can see it all the time in psychics and other paranormal things. It’s all interconnected, it all exists but it’s based on a framework of kindness, benevolence and self lucidity. That is why the Dali Lama can literally project his presence – because he’s a nice guy, essentially, and incredibly lucid.

It’s all literally at the opposite end of the spectrum that these elites operate at. They’re obsessed with the secular, and creating themselves as artificial gods. That’s why guy’s like Icke can get away with saying what they say, cause he knows they’re not listening. I’m not overly angry at this ‘conspiracy’, everyone has their part to play, but it’s just that now is the time for us to wake up, so we can start to wake up fully to the point in which we’ll truly be awake. Christ, among other Avatars did it, he preached we all could too.

Hypothetically.

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‘All living souls welcome whatever they are ready to cope with; all else they ignore, or pronounce to be monstrous and wrong, or deny to be possible.’
- George Santayana

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There is some lines in one of the link Gobbo gave.
I think for a philosophical site they are very important
lines to ponder.

“Awareness tells you not to believe anything,
even this awareness not to believe, but to question,
explore, doubt, and discover for yourself, WHAT IS THE TRUTH?
Cosmic awareness only indicates and suggest”

Regardless if you believe gobbo or not, don’t these lines
mean something for those who are philosophical minded.

Kropotkin

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W. C. - I could not agree more. Sometimes we even go beyond mere denial, and invent entire alternative realities.