Continuation of Bob and Mr Authoritarians immigration discussion

@Vince I obviously don’t know anything about Puerto Ricans, so you going off on me like that is pure woke insanity.

Why would you accuse me of those things when I don’t even know Puerto Rico or even have an opinion on the matter?

Demonic woke cringe.

Terminal empire decline, when we have generations raised like this.

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Because of people like you that talk mad shit about immigrants and don’t know anything about Puerto Rico that’s why dipshit… dumb mother fuckers like you call her an illegal and tell her to go home because why? They don’t know anything about Puerto Rico. So basically they don’t know anything like you

Since the other thread got locked, I will respond to Bob’s post to me in this thread instead, because the topics are somewhat similar.

@Bob

Continuing the discussion from White People Are Evil And Bad:

The fact here is that one group (black Americans) is proven to be committing more violent crimes than another group (white Americans, as well as other non-black racial groups of Americans like Asians, etc.). I wasn’t speculating as to the cause, merely pointing it out as a fact. Just like it is also a fact that men commit more homicide than women, that too is proven by the data.

If you want to say these differences in outcomes of violence have nothing at all whatsoever to do with underlying biology, then OK, I guess you can claim that. But that would seem to show an underlying ideological motive rather than being fair-minded about the issue, because it is not logically or reasonably impossible that biology/genes COULD be a contributing factor to differences in homicide rates. You at least admit that is possible, I hope.

For example the fact that men are more violent than women, do you think this has nothing to do with biological-genetic differences between men and women, for example in certain personality traits? Did you know men are a lot more likely than women to have antisocial personality disorder, and that having antisocial personality disorder is strongly correlated with being more violent? Maybe none of that has anything to do with biology, but then again, why should we think that? There is already plenty of evidence that genes cause a significant amount of the variance between people when it comes to personality traits.

And what accounts for those gaps? Why are different cultures and nations around the world different in outcomes, in the kinds of societies they make? Why do certain groups have higher rates of poverty, unemployment or fatherlessness? Are you intending to say that these differences have nothing to do with anything biological-genetic?

True, and why would we expect them to be race-neutral? If one group or area is having more crime it makes logical sense that group or area would (and, maybe arguably, should) also have a larger police presence.

If you break down homicides in the US by race you see some surprising things. Government data on this shows the following for year 2014:

White on white homicides: 2488

Black on black homicides: 2205

White on black homicides: 187

Black on white homicides: 446

Total black offenders: 2651

Total white offenders: 2675

Adjust those numbers for demographic percentages. There are about 4x as many white people as black people in the US. So looking at those numbers adjusted for population you see black Americans are about 4x as likely as white Americans to commit homicide. That is just official US FBI crime data. I don’t think they even keep track of this stuff anymore because it would be “offensive” to know the truth, lol.

If you want to use poverty as an influencing factor for violence, realize that black Americans are about twice as likely as white Americans to be in poverty. Even if you want to say poverty is a contributing factor to homicide rates, which I am sure it is a factor although it isn’t exactly as simple as poverty causes homicide or that non-poor people also don’t commit homicide, then you are only accounting for half of the variation. Even under the silly assumption that ALL homicide is caused by poverty (that the variable of poor vs not poor accounts for 100% of the variation in outcomes) you would still get the result that black Americans are twice as likely to commit homicide as white Americans.

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@Vince So you hate me because I sound vaguely like some people that I have never met.

I don’t hate you… I just called you out for being and ignorant Nazi. Show me where I said I hate you. I don’t hate I just call out morons that think they know what they are talking about…. You think the natives of this land where thinking “go home you immigrants we don’t want you here. Your causing tons of crime and bringing or wages down.”

When have I ever said I wanted to gas Jews?

When have I ever said I wanted to deport Puerto Ricans, specifically? I assumed they were allowed here. Are they not allowed in America or something?

Never said you said any of that. Your inference is your weakness…. Cousin fucker

You called me a nazi then said “dumb mother fuckers like you call her an illegal and tell her to go home because why? They don’t know anything about Puerto Rico. So basically they don’t know anything like you”

Einstein married his cousin, maybe you are the Nazi.

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Probably and if I am… I guess I’m a cousin fucker too… I still don’t think America’s problems are because of immigration

@Vince

A Japanese proverb:

“I like honey, but that doesn’t mean I want the bees living inside of my house.”

Kick all the illegals out and you won’t have a house to live in… and that’s coming from a Nazi lol

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@futureone

Legal immigrants are fine, illegal ones must go.

However, I think all foreign immigration in the west needs to be halted at some point.

:clown_face:

@Vince

I already live in a house.

:clown_face:

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The Texas Data (The Gold Standard)

Because Texas tracks this data, it is the primary source used by researchers (like the Cato Institute and various universities) to compare crime rates. Over a 10-year period (2013–2022), the findings consistently show:

• Homicide: Undocumented immigrants were 26% less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born citizens.

• Overall Crime: Undocumented immigrants had lower conviction and arrest rates than native-born citizens for almost all categories, including violent, property, and drug crimes.

• The Breakdown: For every 100,000 people in each group in Texas, the homicide conviction rate was approximately 2.2 for undocumented immigrants, compared to 3.0 for native-born Americans.

2. National Incarceration Rates

National data focuses on who is actually in prison. While undocumented immigrants make up about 3-4% of the U.S. population, their incarceration rates are lower than those of native-born citizens:

• Native-born Americans: Roughly 1,221 per 100,000 are incarcerated.

• Undocumented immigrants: Roughly 613 per 100,000 are incarcerated.

• Legal immigrants: Have the lowest rate at about 319 per 100,000.

3. Federal vs. Local Crime

It is important to distinguish between federal and local crimes.

• Federal Courts: A high percentage (often over 50%) of federal convictions are related to immigration offenses (like “illegal reentry” or “alien smuggling”). These are crimes that only non-citizens can commit.

• Local/State Courts: This is where the vast majority of “street crimes” (murder, robbery, assault) are prosecuted. In these courts, the percentage of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants is lower than their share of the population.

I think its a Global issue.

Immigration is a strange concept, for any country. Why should Japanese people accept a bunch of immigrants? It would dilute the Japanese race.

The “Western question” is why Western countries are expected to mix their genetics, meanwhile no wokes are complaining about Japan.

If you mix genetics all over the world… eventually the result will be diffusion, like mixing paints you will eventually end up at only 1 color… 1 color, 1 race and 1 culture.

If wokes cared about biodiversity and preserving races they wouldn’t be about open borders.

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And why would that be bad? Because you can point the finger anymore? Because it’s no longer “get out of my country!”….. so it would suck because you can’t be a Nazi … ok… I’m all for making brown …. I do it every day

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Because I believe in culture and racial preservation.

I do not believe in homogeneity and monotony. I would preserve all the races on earth in favor of diversity. I do not want a monorace.

It is like a videogame with only 1 level theme on it, how boring is that.

It is like a world where every restaurant is the same and has no options.

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Do you believe in god.. and heaven?

So you hate every culture and race on the planet? Or at least you don’t believe they have a right to value and preserve themselves?

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lol really? That’s funny… your saying what the trump administration is doing that?

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