I have never experienced death of consciousness and end to it… i have experienced sleep but i always wake up again… so why should i believe that my consciousness will ever end or at the least not return? 
I can’ t comprehend the death of the consciousness writing these words.
I’ve long accepted that logic completely. The only thing to do next is to simply believe in it in a more intuitive way, which is not easy being that we have an instinctial fear of death.
To explain how hard it would eb to do that let’s take a similar example. There’s no garantee that it won’t be a different “you” who wakes up every morning. That logic goes right with your OP’s logic. They’re really the same thing. But, we would never want to fear sleep. But, let’s say we did, it would be equally hard to believe that in an intuitive way, being that we don’t have an instinctial fear of sleep.
Is it not fear of death, a product of misunderstanding (a bite from the apple), that leads us to fight, the cause of all strife?
There is a key difference. Your consciousness continues to function because your body remains functioning while you are asleep. In fact, waking up is part of that functioning. So when you die and your body ceases to function, we can expect that the consciousness ceases to function as well. There is no waking up.
Probably.
Would it be enough to just spit out the remains of the apple?
You can’t lose what you don’t have.
My argument seems easily refutable, you could just say, “well obviously we have it”. I agree as far as that in our corporal existense goes we have something, and I have no doubt we can lose that, through death or not. But, as far as “it” goes, I believe it’s up to you to prove “it” is, before you can prove “it” may be lost.
we don’t know though what causes conciousness… or what it is exactly so how can we say it is not elsewhere simply because the thing used to act by that consciousness that we knew stops acting?
Eventually we will digest it and take what is good from the lesson shitting out fear of death.
Well we have gathered a few things. For one, consciousness seems related to brain activity. We don’t see consciousness displayed in things without brains. Second, we know that even when we are unconscious, in dream states for instance, our consciousness likely doesn’t leave our bodies. We can measure brain activity and see REM movement related to dreams, and when a person wakes up he can recount his dream. So my question to you is: where would it go?
We still don’t know that the actuall conciousness occurs in the brain it is just as possible that the occurances in the brain are reactions to the conciousness from elsewhere causing change.
I didn’t say it was caused by the brain; just that the two are related. Where do you think it comes from?
There’s even a consciousness in deep sleep. It’s just that so little is happening there it is not remembered except in that vague ‘ummm’ that was a nice experience way we have after good night’s sleep. If you meditate long enough you can maintain a remembered experience of even that state.
I have vivid dreams. I go to sleep expecting better dreams than found in movies and TV shows. I also have what I call Twilight dreams, or dreams while I’m conscious, before and after sleep. But I’ve learned that if I bring consciousness to bear on these twilight dreams they go away.
But obviously, consciousness is very active during my dreams. The only complaint I have is if I do something in my dreams or twilight dreams, when I get up it’s not done in real life, and I have to do it all over again. What a pain in the ass.
Have you ever put in a full eight hour work day in eight hours sleep? I have, with the exception of the occasional walking on walls, it was basically the same thing.
It is the energy within the cells which produces the process.
When the cells die, their energy is released, of which I believe is the spirit as-well-as the soul.
I think almost any process and structure is possible to destroy or stop. But some processes never do, because of how they are. You could theoretically destroy a star, but you never will. Same with the soul. It can theoretically be destroyed, but it usually isn’t, due to the difficulty.
The energies on the earth are still connected to the spiritual energies just above it. The two interchange. They can also combine.
Sure, and I actually really appreciate a good nightmare, generally when it’s over. It feels like I really accomplished something.
The worse part is during the actual work day. You can’t remember what you really did the day before and what you only did in your dream. I’ve lost a job that way. Actually, I saved a job that way, I went in to pick up my last check, avoiding the stair of my former employer, when he yelled at me to quit looking at the ground and get to work, my anger rekindled, but I then realized I had nothing left to say, and even if I did he was no longer a human head on a jackasses body. Perhaps the reverse, but then what can one say to that?!
It could be other dimensional for all we know…
whats your point?