Death

Why is everyone so damn afraid of talking about death? Doesn’t death make life possible? If no one ever died, how would anyone ever know they were alive? Or rather, how would anyone live at all?

It seems like everytime I post a topic on death, it’s immediately dismissed or ignored. Are we that terrified of it? Are we to simply remain in this fantasy that’s called life and pretend that death doesn’t exist, and then just freak out when it draws nearer? Thoughts anyone?

ii) Don’t just ask questions. Bring something to the discussion.

Asking “WOAH…LIKE…COULD WE BE LIKE…IN THE MATRIX???” does not make you a philosopher. Honestly. Asking questions is great, as long as you have studied to some extent the topic that you are talking about. Have the decency to go and read some philosophy before asking questions that any old schmoe could ask. There’s no need to try and look cleverer than you actually are, this isn’t a contest. We’re here to educate and be educated.

-Imp

You are speaking about death as an abstract concept, which is full of crap. No one wants to get needlessly knifed in the guts or develop spinal cancer to help humanity. Wake up.

Look up my thread on the guy who incited his own murder. That’s all I’ve got to say about the topic.

This fellow is asking why death doesn’t make for lively conversation. :laughing:

:unamused:

Stop thinking in terms of dichotomies; death does not define life. People are aware of death and still don’t know what “life” is (just check out all the “What is the meaning of life?” threads). And, in fact, I was quite a happy lil youngin, completly unware of the concept death, and probably more alive then, then I ever was or will be – so the answer is: no, death does not define life.

That would have been really funny had you not ruined it with the italics and smugly faces.

The italics were really bad, but I like the faces. They make it less serious and just make it seem lighter to me.

Heh. . I’m just having fun today – don’t take it personally. I’m in a lil bit of a fit of wit today :wink:

Doesn’t death make life possible? = Death merely defines the word life, and words are just pretty pictures for our imagination to play with. We would still be alive if we were eternal beings.

If no one ever died, how would anyone ever know they were alive? Or rather, how would anyone live at all? = There has to be a first life without death. The Hen, and the egg situation.

It seems like everytime I post a topic on death, it’s immediately dismissed or ignored. Are we that terrified of it? = You make a great leap of judgement from ignored to terrified.

Are we to simply remain in this fantasy that’s called life and pretend that death doesn’t exist, and then just freak out when it draws nearer? = Leaps of judgement again.

Ponderous, truly ponderous… :unamused:

Hold that Thought – I’ll be right back. my little roly-eyed smilie just locked up and its eyes are now crossed. I have to take it for a cyber-walk :astonished:

Okay… so all these people once again dismissed your topic, how cute? Perhaps they are weaker then they think… The truth is that people don’t like to talk about death b/c it is depressing… and yes they are scared of it… Nobody knows (really) what happens when we die… Even if people postulate on it they will never figure it out or be able to predict it - so yes that tells me that they are scared…

What is the point in discussing something that you have no control over? I think that is how they think, but I enjoy talking about death, but that is because it is the only thing in life that has a probability of 1.

Sometimes I even get scared though… at the end of conversations and/or thoughts about death - I usually find myself questioning life???

it’s weird… i’m not scared to die, i’m just scared to die without having made a difference with my life

Oh, then be prepared for a life of fear.

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:confused: Did you happen catch the part in Animal Farm where Boxer was taken to the glue factory…? :astonished:

from the Theatre of the Absurd, 3 existentialist plays that address death or dying – metaphorically, of course…

Endgame
Waiting For Godot
Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead

[size=75]I have to keep reminding myself that this thread is located in Mundane Babble and probably not meant for serious discussion…[/size]

Hi torrentfields. I would like you to know I honestly tried to give you my full attention, specifically in observance of the fact the responses you’ve recieved have not been very favorable. However, your questions here are based on a fictional premise, and this certainly is cause for a rather large problem. Hence, for example, Impenitent saying:

I’ll be more specific: 1) No, death does not make life possible - life makes life possible; or, should you prefer, the current conditions of the planet make life possible. 2) Your use of ‘If no one ever died’ is objectionable for what should be an obvious reason: living things do die, every last one. In turn, there is nowhere concrete for the mind to go when faced with the question short of nonsensical, hypothetical suggestives.

To again quote Impenitent: “Asking questions is great, as long as you have studied to some extent the topic that you are talking about.”

Personally I would substitute the word ‘studied’ for the phrase ‘thought about’, but my advice would be much the same: A better approach is to ask yourself these questions, see what you come up with, and post that. Had you attempted this, you would have more than likely realized your mistake as cited above by myself and others.

Life is not a fantasy, and I must disagree: death does not ‘exist’ - rather the exact opposite, by definition.

If you’re looking to discuss how different people deal with the concept of death, the certainty of death, just ask, ‘How do you deal with the truth of certain death?’.

I myself consider it constantly. Indeed it is with the knowledge of certain death I become ‘aware’ of life in the senses of ‘living for the moment’ and amor fati. I’ve long since decided to begin my magnum opus as such: ‘Nothing matters. That’s the secret no one ever tells you.’ What I have in mind there is precisely the concept of death.

Do I fear it? I try to convince myself otherwise, I’ll say that. But of course the idea is … well, it’s the single most frightening idea known to humanity, isn’t it?

But even in saying that, I’m led to ask: what else are you expecting people to say about it?