Three structural problems with existence:
Pleasurable exclusive access problem:
While you’re having the best time of your life, you’re knowingly stomping on someone else’s heart.
Negative zero sum problem: for every winner, there is more than one loser.
Consent violation problem: I don’t want this, I want that instead.
Hate to break the news to you, Ecmandu, you can’t “fix” Nature because it’s not broken.
Frogs feed on flies. Snakes feed on frogs. Birds feed on snakes. Mammals feed on birds. The cycle of blood, pain, predation never ends.
Feeding tastes good. How much meat have you eaten? Don’t be a hypocrite.
“The Circle of Life”
That’s the problem. I have no choice but to be a hypocrite. Even if I try not to.
Plants feel pain when you bite into them.
You don’t see the vastness of all that is.
You also don’t realize how powerful spirit actually is.
If we want to change this. We can.
Read biographies of folks who went through hard stuff but did great things with joy. Like Watchman Nee. Dude was the shit!!
No. You don’t get to pull that bullshit.
You can type 5 sentences here to make your point.
Maybe 10.
Make them perfect. Existence is imperfect.
Ask whatever god you can fathom to guide your hands.
How about you go back to that thread and actually engage with what I already put there? I must decline otherwise.
No. I’m not going to do that. I want you to bring it like you’ve never brought it.
Neutralize me (as you called it)
Cut and paste if you have to.
We’re doing this here.
You’ve been trolling the boards with your Christian shit for a long time.
We end it here.
Sounds fun. You are welcome to copy paste and engage with what I already offered.
You’re a drama queen. Not interested in all’s well that ends well.
Attack my structural problems or concede the debate.
I’ve actually been to hell you piece of shit.
You haven’t.
You are so fucking cocky about how life works.
Do you really think you have a savior? Besides all of us combined?
Never put your hope in the imperfect, my friend. It cannot satisfy.
The very fact we need satisfaction is evidence of one who satisfies.
I’ll say something else since you’re such a god freak…
Do you know what blasphemy is?
It’s telling god that god is evil.
Existence is evil.
Should you have the temerity to speak those words, hell.
So who’s going to defend you now?
Everyone.
quote me funny guy
Existence… the whole shebang… is evil.
Do you agree or disagree?
Disagree. Evil in the universe is not evil in God because it’s what comes out of the mouth from the spirit, not what goes into the stomach, that makes one unclean.
So you don’t see structural problems with existence?
Like a kitten starving to death half way around the world?
That makes you a sociopath.
What’s perfect about a sociopath ?
You are stupid and arrogant.
Hell is laid out right in front of you, and your ego gets in the way.
How would you fix the structural problem you see if you were capable? Would you take pain out of the universe? No pain, no kitties. Pain tells us when to eat, what to avoid, etc.
No hunger pangs, no [ insert favorite taste ].
No beauty pangs, no [ insert favorite vista or sound ].
No understanding pangs, no [ insert favorite insight ].
No goodness pangs, no [ insert favorite nonviolent social revolution ].
No need, no fulfillment.
Seems to me like the universe is set up the way it is for a reason.
This is a really confused post
You are mired in the myth of the limited good. Are you of the opinion that you cannot have pleasure without causing some pain elsewhere? If so you are wrong.
It seems that point two means worst that that “winning” means more than one losing. If that were the case whole world would have coe crashing down long ago.
This all goes to prove that god is in fact evil and that he has only created good things to daunt us and to make the evil things seem all the more evil.
He peppers our suffering with moments of joy only to crush us in the end with a meaningless and painful death.
This horror is only mitigated by the works of science in the form of health care and pain killers.
There is nothing either good or bad evil but thinking makes it so.