Deep Woke: Call for Restoration of Indian Spirit

If you’re going to do things like that then every month should have a period of time celebrating all races or ethnicities including a white European history month.

The moment you exclude different people is the beginning of schisms between people forming. You don’t want anybody to feel left out or excluded.

— I’m not even against that. Celebrating cultures is interesting. But white culture is still dominant and I think the Native cause is the most tragically repressed of all. And with that repression there is a lot of spirit, knowledge, method, life force that is repressed. From which everyone would benefit if it were unleashed.

By the way I don’t mean that there should be a month of commemorating the history of their slaughter, but of the history of their healthy times. I do also want to note that I think they have a special case in America, since they were the originals. They have some first rights. We should probably be able to see that separately from the ones who did the slaughtering.

Noting also that the Injuns were largely violent people as well. Its not about innocence.

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This is garbage! How do you “phase” someone out? A non-white waits until whites die and leave no children behind, but they have children themselves. That way the whites have phased themselves out.

Or are you imagining some kind of purge?

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If you have lived around some of the reservations like I have they have public events all the time that anybody can attend. They’re like huge festivals in support of their local communities. I have been to a few and they are generally pleasant.

It’s always a bunch of white and Jewish neoliberals that say things like that where I can’t believe you seriously as an older individual yourself claiming you have never heard people talk like that before.

Birth rates, it’s all about birth rates, or in the west the general lack of birth rates regarding white Europeans.

I can’t tell if you’re just naive or pretending to be naive towards the subject.

That sounds great. Despite the far better safety and health situation here, I often wish I lived in the US.

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Some tribal reservations are better than others, they don’t receive the same amount of federal funding nationwide. Some tribal reservations are very poor in that poverty is enormous where others are more wealthy because they have things like casinos, hotels, tourist trade, local industry, and so on.

There’s a tribal reservation near Michigan as an example where a big source of their community income are from commercial fisheries. Stuff like that.

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I posted a birthrate pic but everyone knows this. I hate this subject.

If it’s about birthrates, then it isn’t someone “phasing” white people out; they are doing it themselves. And if white people don’t want to give birth to children, where is the damage done? Or do you imagine whites to be somehow superior? There used to be all sorts of human species that have gone extinct. In a hundred years, perhaps everybody will have more melanin in their skin, so what?

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Why are you polarizing this, suggesting that the European type has no value, that it doesn’t matter if it is preserved, that it is okay if it is phased out by immigration from lands with higher birthrates? Why do you pretend that the type is determined only by skin color? Do you really believe that? Of course not, you’re just virtue signaling/edgelording.

Why are you bringing this type-annihilationism into a thread that is meant to advocate the restoration of a type?

If somebody is offshoring all the good paying jobs outside of a nation essentially making everybody much poorer devaluing their national currency simultaneously by let’s just say 65% to where people cannot afford neither marriage or family creation, yes, it is being done intentionally all the while the demand for cheap foreign labor goes up in the whole assorted mess in bringing down wages.

In some cases especially in the culture it is white Europeans doing it to ourselves, but in other instances where it is a bunch of individuals making billions of dollars selling their nation completely out in the name of maximizing profit it is due to things that are out of people’s hands where they have no control over that whatsoever.

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Why do you and @MrAuthoritarian seem to think that we have more value? I’m not the one polarising anything; I’m the one asking wtf you are talking about. Human beings, whatever ethnicity or colour, are valuable, but if one species decides it doesn’t want to have children, plenty of others will take their place.

It is the same issue with families concerned that their line will end when a man has no children. So what? I’m more concerned that this thread is trying to ridicule the annihilation of cultures and the remembrance of that crime. That was originally understood as ‘woke’ by people who suffered great injustice at the hands of whites.

You people are scared about being “phased out” by immigration from lands with higher birth rates, but the fact is that Europe has always brought immigrants in to do their dirty work, the jobs that the white ‘elite’ were too fine to do. It goes back centuries, and after we stole the industries from places like India, the natural resources from Africa, and land from other indigenous peoples, we now fill our pants because they might outnumber us.

To phrase it as though we are somehow being ‘punished’ and that whites are being required to emasculate themselves is psychologically telling. One Indian governor who was educated in Britain said rightly that no retribution could put things right, but a cultural gesture might play down the feeling that Indian’s have that the widespread effect of colonisation and the ‘global’ economy, that forced countries into debt to participate (and they had to) was just ‘bad luck’!

You are afraid of being ‘phased out’? Bad luck. At least it’s better than being annihilated.

Show me these people and I bet that white people are profiting from it, even if they are not the ones ‘selling off the nation’. But, of course, they are, aren’t they?

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It starts out as being phased out where overtime it is total annihilation.

There’s already places inside the United States where white Europeans are already a racial or ethnic minority, I have lived in some of those places in the past where it isn’t very pleasant at all. I have had job contracts terminated because at the time I didn’t speak any Spanish. Over the past few years I’ve been learning Spanish because it’s a good language to know in business trade but even with that if you’re not very fluent a lot of businesses won’t hire you at least in my little segment of the world over here.

In the west white Europeans are becoming a racial or ethnic minority all the while being blamed for all the problems of the world being described nearly as being a collective evil. Not only are we being phased out into annihilation but I suspect we’re going to become an oppressed racial minority overtime being blamed for all the world’s problems everywhere. If things don’t change white Europeans will become the new racial or ethnic diaspora culture of the future. I honestly don’t know how anybody can want that or brush it off as no big deal.

Unlike the Native Americans being discussed in this thread there will be no reservation lands or territories for white Europeans because according to neoliberals White Europeans have no culture or identity worth saving where we’re indigenous to nowhere.

Many of them are, yes. It doesn’t matter, their actions are wrong as they’re harming nations in a very bad way.

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Majority Americans and World see nothing wrong with this.. :backhand_index_pointing_down:t3:

"seem to think that we have more value? "

Very tiring. I never said that. You pretend to not understand that people feel comfortable within their own type. That they do doesn’t mean they claim their type objectively has more value.

And as for ‘oh just a bit more skin color doesn’t matter at all, just surface’ - yes, surface speaks to other differences. For example, red haired people need significantly more anesthetics to dull their senses than blond or brow haired people do. They’re categorically more sensitive. That’s just one enormous difference, related to ‘merely the color of the hair’. That’s just one ‘superficial difference’ that relates to a massively significant ‘deep difference’.

That doesn’t mean they’re objectively more or less valuable. It does mean they experience life differently. Likely more pleasure and more pain. That is a trait one might desire to preserve. So there are many traits, capacities for experience, in each type and subtype that people within that type find valuable and don’t want diluted, You don’t get to decide for others that their type has no special value to them.

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And before you set off framing me a white supremacist because am not as disdainful to my own type as you are, note that as you could surmise from the OP, I greatly value other types as well. In fact during my adult life Ive always immersed myself in the different cultures of humanity. I have great appreciation for many types, and this is precisely why I don’t want them all diluted into one big average.

I know this love of deep diversity is very incorrect, and I expect you to try to frame it in some negative way. Ok. But still why, if you’re the humanitarian you like to signal being, not add some value relating to the OP?

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As long as we don’t use the diversity to rationalize treating folks inequitably, I think it’s OK to call it a love of diversity.

I am super confused as to whether we are referring to indigenous peoples of North America, or people from the country of India. Believe me, I did scan the thread looking for the answer.

He did distinguish in his response below.