I am calling out! Is there anyone who can help me make sense of the dinasaurs? They completely throw a stick in my spokes when it comes to my philosophy. First of all, any links or explanations to theories on why the dinasaurs died or when they were alive would be useful, but there is more to my problem than that.
I just don’t understand why Dinasaurs, and other such giant or unusual creatures were not described in the Bible at all. If the Bible describes the world from the beginning, then wouldn’t Dinasaurs be mentioned in there some where? Or do I just have the timeline all messed up? Is there a period of time that is not described in the bible? Could God have even made the Dinasaurs? They weren’t on Noah’s Arc were they?
Why are there no human bones found in the same time period as dinasaurs, or even older than dinasaurs? According to the bible, people were created within the same 7 days that the animals were created. So if God did make Dinasaurs, why is there no evidance at all that humans even existed in their time? Please help me!
confusion is often goes about this area.
If you accept the bible as truth, then you must
dump science. If you accept science, then you must
dump the bible.
If you dump the bible, then they let into the 21st
century. It is really simple actually.
dinosaurs were almost definetely killed by a meteor and its aftermath 65 million years ago. the first homo sapiens came about i think 50,000-100,000 yrs ago and the first link between monkey and human was about 1-2 million yrs ago.
if you believe the bible, i dont think you should write in the natural sciences section. but hey, maybe YHWH created dinosaur bones with varying amounts of carbon-12 in them 6000 years ago, and then he let us foolishly learn today that carbon-12 decays in bones extremely slowly, leading us to have a completely skewed aging system. he did this for the sole purpose of finding out who is truly holy and believes things they hear for no reason.
This is a hard thing for a Confucian to say . . . but you’re gonna have to leave the teaching of your parents behind if you plan on seriously persuing a career as a scientist. That, or, become a physical scientist (physics, chemistry (not biochemistry), geology, ect.) – they have an easier time reconsiling religion and science.
That said, why not moderate your religious belief and take the Bible metaphorically? While it deviates from the belief your parents taught you, it still allows you to honour them by staying in the tradition.
seriously, volair, read the link. it brings together natural history and gods plan for creatures to do selfless actions. its not quite christian, but deism with a focus on selflessness. its really almost exactly what you are asking for here.
i dont think ive ever read anything so original while almost being coherent.
Future Man,
Your link does not seriously discuss the merits of Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and so it is hardly the most rational discussion on the topic at hand.
Volair, no worries man, there is evidence that humans existed during dinosaurs’ time. You just haven’t found it. I don’t know even IF humans existed while dinosaurs existed, but anyways the 24-hour day theory of the Bible is not accepted by most Christians I know. Take a look at the creation account again though. God made light first right? Then on the fourth day he made stars to tell the time and seasons apart. How can there be a first through third day, if according to the Bible there was nothing to tell the days apart from the first through the third day? 24-hour day was not invented until the romans, and the only way to tell the days apart were if there was a star for the earth to revolve around and to rotate so that the light from the star could be blocked by the shadow of the earth. Well, what could those days mean then? I don’t believe in the 24-day theory at all, I dont see why God would mean that it took a literal 7 days if a day is like a thousand years to him anyways. all we know is that whatever the days in Genesis mean, they mean the same thing and it doesn’t seem likely they were a literal 7-day period. And that’s ok if im wrong too, because my salvation has nothing to do with how LONG it took to create the universe, but THAT it was created, and WHO it was that created it.
The reason human remains are not as abundant in the geologic strata is simply when the flood water rose people tried to climb for higher ground. When they could go no further and the water covered them, their bodies floated and bloated then decayed without any kind of cementing process to preserve the hard tissue. The dinosaurs couldn’t escape, they were caught in the deluge, quickly buried in a cementing process which preserved the hard tissue. that is why geologists fail to find human remains in the fossil record. This is a bit simplified, but I believe it accurately explains the issue.
The explanation of dinosaur extinction as a result of a meteorite hitting the earth, is a very remote possibility. Yes, meteorites do enter the earth’s atmosphere, but not with the size and kind of impact that evolutionists have speculated it to be.
One must recall that most of the early scientists were Christians, Copernicus, Galilleo, Decartes, Newton, Leibniz, Babbage, Farraday, Pastour, and others. However, Darwin wasn’t a scientist, he was a theologian. So continue on your quest.
Old world monkeys diverged about 25 million years ago, new world monkeys about 40 millions years ago. Chimpanzies diverged about 6 million years ago, from austrialopithicenes.
ITs not remotely possible, its now most definetly science fact… There was some arguement over it a some years ago… but now its solidly confirmed, and accepted. You might want to look for your information in contemporary sources.
Hi, I’ve read Daniel Dennet’s Freedom Evolves and Darwin’s Dangerous Idea. Neither are very convincing and both are prejudiced against science. The meteorite theory is just that a theory, there no physical evidence of such a catastrophe. Dinosaurs went extinct the same way many other animals did, they were hunted into extinction by man. One must remember man is the only living thing on this earth, that can think, reason and build upon knowledge. Science requires evidence that exists in the present and gather information from that. Evolutionists, however fail to do that. They develop a hypothesis and test, even if it fails they hgold to regardless of the facts. Evolution at any level must pass the scientific method, evolution doesn’t because one cannot repeat past events. Here is a question for you, How long does it take to form a fossil? I’ll tell you, less than an hour, why because to preserve the hard parts of an organism, a cementing process combined with extreme pressure must act immediately and rapidly. If it is buried the organism it will decay and leave no imprint. Therefore, the majority of the fossil record was formed very rapidly under extreme conditions. The only known event of that magnitude would be the flood of Noah’s time.
As you are a Christian I shall try and make my reply as bible oriented as possible because I know you will treat any hard science as heresay. My answer comes in a Seven-pronged approach (Which is apt as we are discussing Creation), so mix and match whichever parts you like into an answer:
Dinosaurs are what angels really look like, unlike this winged human image that only came about in roman times. They are angel bones. (Okay, I’m just messing with you with that one. ) Then again they could be demon bones as the were cast down into the depths of the earth. That’s sounding a little to wiggy though.
The Bible is not wrong, but it was passed on through word of mouth before it was written down. Harldy anyone, if anyone at all, passing on a story a couple of mellenia ago would have had a clue what a dinosaur was and so the stories in the bible got their square peg details filed down to fit into round hole human heads.
The Bible is not comprehensive enough because God only answered mankinds questions and problems, and did not bring up anything mankind wasn’t already at least partially aware of.
The dinosaurs may have come about during the 7 day creation of the earth on day 2 and died on day 3 when they got crushed by all the mountains forming and got buried under the earth. The bible doesn’t mention them because people never new they existed.
There are heaps of animals that were never mentioned in the bible, and just because they weren’t mentioned does not mean they do not exist. (or have not existed)
If all the animals were made on day 6 then it stands to reason that a lot can happen in a day when God is involved and so not only do animals come into existance but some die off on day 6 too. All before day 7.
The Bible is just plain wrong, spend your time on philosophy instead. This is a good start.
) Then again they could be demon bones as the were cast down into the depths of the earth. That’s sounding a little to wiggy though.