Discussions On Abortion

What is your stance on rape, incest, and threatened life births on the part of women Turd?

I highly doubt they’ll cut Roe vs Wade out. I think they’ll terminate funding to Planned Parenthood for abortions. All women that utilize abortion as last minute contraception will be pissed of course.

Human life shouldn’t have an economic monetary price attached to it to begin with.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc5LY8kXj1A[/youtube]

Poor man forced to be a father. It’s not only the women opting for abortions.

I agree that western civilization is aborting its future at a faster rate than it can replicate itself intergenerational. Aborting future human beings especially with abortion used as contraception is akin to mass murder of epic levels.

The choice is at the time of intercourse. If you decide to have intercourse you should accept the responsibility that comes with performing the act. Killing a living being out of convenience is no more right just because we have the technology/medical science to do so. And how the fuck does that translate into a “right”? Also, you fucked but can’t pay for a baby, or the condom broke/contraception failed is still out of convenience. No number of pictures of starving children changes that. What gives anyone the right to carelessly engage in intercourse?

Wow, then there’s that gem.

If someone kills a pregnant woman and kills the fetus and the mother, in many locations that would be double murder. A mother deciding she doesn’t want to have the baby somehow legitimately means it can be killed without consequence? Also, ask any average pregnant woman and they will refer to the being inside them as their child, or their baby, etc. They won’t say “my mass of cells” or other lefty weasel words. It’s not YOUR body.

The responsibility is doubly important if we are to say that women are the only one’s that can make decisions (meaningful) about starting human life or deciding if our species propagates.

(Of course exceptions in exceptional circumstances is common sense).

Women can’t help the way they are presently. They’ve been collectively lulled to sleep by anti -human ideologies since the 1960’s and effectively programmed not to value human life but instead value materialism over reproduction or family. I use to hate and be angry with women collectively but now I just look at them as unknowingly victims as somebody so eloquently earlier said by a global death cult.

Merlin wrote:

Yes of course I would pay.

But, I wasn’t really thinking about the financial aspect of it in my question, it was more does the man have the right to dispute the female’s decision.

Looking at the future if economic materialism becomes the most prized facet of humanity or society going in the future it truly will be a childless future where the novel Children Of Men becomes reality. Discussing abortion nobody likes talking about aborting the future away where instead there is only the myopic immediate present of self indulgences.

According to most women he doesn’t.

Well, according to abortionists future life or future human beings have no rights.

As everybody here knows I don’t believe in morality or ethics where I’m skeptic of both. I criticize abortion because it’s interesting from a study of moral hypocrisy for a skeptic like me and because at this rate societies are aborting themselves it is an illustration of societal collapse in real time.

Well how far would they be willing to take it, to keep it.

Turd, Wendy is a nice woman where I think she would be very great with children. She’s not anti-children at all. She doesn’t hate children and comparing her to nazis is a bit over the top. Lighten up man.

I don’t understand the question, can you elaborate?

But that’s the trick they play. They rationalize it by making up a new concept to justify their actions. The “personhood” or 'viable and independant" arguments fall apart too though once you start talking about “marginal cases” and the like. At some point it is an arbitrary decision. The whole thing is completely irrational. They always have to have a corresponding justification and they can never fall back on an argument that includes nature.

Agreed. This is a huge problem for moral and ethical philosophy beyond abortion also. :wink:

Me and Wendy have been talking about this abortion subject at great lengths here at the Merlin household this evening.

So now I’m going to carry the conversation in an unorthodox manner that I’m usually not use or accustomed to.

It is easy I think for us men or people in general to criticize such subjects like these as it is very easy to do but it is entirely different coming up with a solution or way of solving the crux of the problems that faces the societies we live in. As a deconstructionist, skeptic, nihilist, and cynic problem solving I admit is not my forte. I’m a questioner and doubter which I’m excellent at but solving the world’s problems (which are very complex) I typically don’t do. (In many cases it causes even more problems.)

So, as a conservative, leftist, or whatever ideological fixation you embrace, how can society or people solve the abortion dilemma? Describe in your own words.

The only thing I can think of for human beings to value reproduction instead of death and make a more conducive environment for family life is to have a completely different economic structure altogether since the economic structure that post modern societies have created is the complete opposite.

The type of societies we live in now clearly do not value human life despite all the state propaganda and deception which comes out saying we do.

What needs to be done to decrease the number of abortions around the world?

What needs to be done to make societies more family oriented?

What needs to be done to make having a family more financially accessible to people?

What pictures?! :neutral_face:

I think we have a greater problem on our hands, overpopulation. This is what happens when you ‘value human reproduction over death’. And while I don’t endorse mid/late abortion as birth control, I do believe in responsible breeding, and not breeding just because you can, like Turd does. We need to find a way to control human population growth worldwide.


grist.org/population/2011-10-20- … s-project/

Your thoughts on demographic or population decline that contradicts your overpopulation argument…?

I wouldn’t say ‘civilization’ because obviously people are not taught morality in elementary school and why a war economy is against humanity. Throughout history society have thrived on wars and the pagan blood ritual that is war itself. So the entire society is a BLOOD RITUAL. Everything is fractal and holographic.

WE HAVE TWO CHOICES:
1)A civilization is based on the human nature understanding natural cosmic laws
2)A death cult world is based on darwinian conditioning with masters pulling the strings

Somebody understanding the difference here, will systematically be again, abortion, war, slavery in whatever form and thus “life first” oriented.

The term PRO-life is an hoax as people militating against abortion don’t see anything wrong with bombing other countries and skyrocketing military spending, also killing kids and pregnant women. Nor sending young men to die. Eradicating life.

Our current form of society is SICK and PSYCHOPATHIC, and we can change this, it is not immutable if we accept reality of what is, Just like an addict must recognize his addiction

And people here want to believe that technocracy will be good for humanity ??? well sorry 80% are going to die if we do not wake up… and address our social premises first. The UN is another collectivist hoax that does NOTHING to protect nor enhance humans rights.