Does expressing an attitude outweigh the actual message?

Does expressing an attitude outweigh the actual message?

What i’m trying to get to is the tone of the subject matter, or more precisely, the tone over the subject matter.

Many times when we hear somebody say something we are judging not the message, but rather if the person has a positive or negative pitch. In turn, if we are feeling either positive or negative at the time, we agree or disagree, at any given moment.

For me, I hear the tone over most messages, that is why the newscaster with their cheery delivery of sad news is disturbing, even more so.

I wonder if we were conditioned by those first moments of mothers squealing into our baby carriages, to forever listen for the the sounds that equate to smile, that equate to happiness.

If you have ever read, The Catcher in the Rye, much debate arises over whether the story is optimistic or pessimistic. The words of that story sound of a hostile tone, expressing negative ideas, but there is humor in the release of that tone, and therefore, positive.

If you think about a member of this forum, Joker, not everyone agrees with his world view (I mostly do) but he has an attitude that is easily recognizable as one that many might want to identify with. Why is this so?

What do you think of attitudes expressed in tone, whether verbal or by way of music?

Feel free to take this topic in any direction, in regards to the sound of things and the way they sound.

Yes, very astute observation Nano.

Thank you for your assement of me.

You’re welcome–when did you get so smart so quickly?

A billionth of a second ago. I done learned me that that is a nanosecond.

It does not outweigh the message in everycase but, it does influence everycase. Another big influence is the person. What is our attitude towards that person that delivers the message. Our knowledge or attitude towards a person influences the message. Heck if the person smell bad or looks bad that can influence it too. I agree about the newscasters , you just want to reach through the screen and smack that disgusting fake plastic or sadistic smile off their face. Good to see you back, by the way.

Tone and content are two different messages which might coincide or might be radically different. Communication, information, messages, interactions, etc. are very complex. The internet makes it simpler, which kind of makes it even more complex.

imagine dr king delivering his “I have a dream” speech while wearing a nazi uniform or a klan outfit…

expressing an attitude can outweigh a message real fast…

-Imp

Tone is often the coveyer of meanings not actually intended. Good insight. On the other hand, my cat Thai understands my tones, but very few words in my language. It works both ways.

Funny, speaking to my cats with subdued tones is kinda what got me thinking about such a thing.

Well, I thank ya,

Yeah, Kris, there are so many influences out there, I was kinda hoping i nailed one of the bigger ones. That way I could influence you all into thinking I’m a thinker.

:smiley: You are a thinker, there is no need to fool anyone. You did nail a big influence. But imagine the whole message if you did not like the person and their tone was one that conveyed something other than their words even if it was meant to be humorous. That is what happens to public speakers all the time. That is why their words are often removed from context. The media loves to butcher a decent well meaning, well intended speech. How the media feels about a person will be reflected in how they edit a speech.

:smiley: Cats are influenced highly by tone and body language… Mine always seem to know when I am going to give them pills or a bath or something unpleasent for them, no matter how normal I try to sound. They seem to know I am telling them a lie when I say I just want a hug at that time :laughing:

Its somewhat hard for me to imagine liking a persons tone, while disliking the person. I think the tone would start to win me over, because attitude is a part of personality, and personality wins the day. I can, however, see not liking a person, they make a joke, but i dont laugh. But what i’m trying to get at here, i think, is the perfect pitch. I tend to have the belief that if something is said in the right way, not just a positive way, or an inspirational negative way, but with words calculated to alter a persons brain chemistry, people will follow.

I dont think you can plan something like that, but i think there are sweet spots with words and phrases that elicit reactions, and with enough practice getting that type of reaction, control can be had by the speaker.

I have more to say about this matter, just waiting for other responses to add to.

I like you analysis nano-bug. That is the reason why I place “mood” in one of the prime categories of existence. As we interact with others our “mood” or “attitude” is what others are experiencing. It is through our mood we are communicating and sharing, more than words we speak or our physical nature, thus causing mood to be a prime category of our existence.